Apr 122013

“No, I won’t let you move to the room with the tub, and now you cannot use the shower.”  - L&D nurse to mother who had been promised the room with the bath when she was admitted.

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 April 12, 2013  L&D Nurse, labor  Add comments

  30 Responses to ““No, I Won’t Let You Move To The Room With The Tub…””

  1. And if you ask again, you’ll be sent to your room without dinner!

  2. Did someone send in something from my birth? This was basically what was said by one of the medwives I encountered!

  3. And this is why I hope to always be able to birth at home. I am too friggin busy, you know, creating a person, to be arguing with petty control freaks over stupid stuff. No one who cannot be trusted to put me and the baby first is allowed within miles of me at such a time.

  4. Wtf? Jeez. Power trip and sadistic much?

  5. “When I found out the job of Evil Dictator Emperess For Life had been given to someone else, I decide to become an L&D nurse.”

  6. Wow. Could have been me but wasn’t. This same thing was pretty much said to me by the nurse assigned to me when I arrived. I had called before coming in to check how full they were and if a room with a tub was available. The charge nurse said they were practically empty and I could pretty much have whatever room I wanted. Then nurse nasty put me in a tiny room with just a shower. I said the charge nurse said I could have a room with a tub and she replied that I couldn’t get out of bed. Ha! I got out of bed anyway and miss nasty got so frustrated with readjusting the monitors and not listening to her demands that I stay in bed that she switched with another nurse. My lovely new nurse promptly switched me to a big room with a tub, brought in the wireless monitors, a birth ball, and some snacks. In hindsight I should have requested a new nurse right off the bat, but in the moment I just didn’t think of it.

    • I tried to request a new nurse during labor with my first son, but they told me there was no one else. The woman came into my room and told me to be quiet when I was moaning through contractions. So glad I had my second son at home.

  7. Adolf, we found your long lost relative!

  8. So is the “and now you cannot use the shower” punishment for asking for a room with a tub? That’s how it reads to me…

  9. You’re not allowed to shower! You might relax and have the baby before the doc gets here!

  10. I was told this when I asked after having a VE that caused baby to have a decel (she put me flat on my back). There was a space between the two statement. You cannot have a bath, you’re staying in this room. Then she did the VE as a bribe (I said, I would like to shower, then she said, “after I check you, then you can shower). She checked me and then said, “and now you cannot have a shower. She was the same nurse who was not comfortable with me drinking water when I asked my husband for a drink, didn’t want me to get out of the bed, didn’t want me to use the restroom, wanted to do a bunch of VE’s, wanted me to stay on my left side (and made sure I knew the baby looked perfect on the screen when I was in transition on my left side)…and more. I pinked on a few other submissions on this nurse.

    • “Decel” is a new term to me that I also saw on another board. What does this mean? I wasn’t planning on consenting to VE’s to begin with, but I’m assuming it is dangerous while you are in labor?

      • A decel is when the baby’s heart slows down. Usually this is temporary, but too many decels, or decels that are prolonged can indicate that the baby is distress or not tolerating labor.

      • Bad positioning can cause decels, so if the heart rate drops in the on the back position while the cervix is being checked, common sense dictates that the mom should avoid that position. But the delivery room is immune from common sense dictation if it isn’t convenient.

      • And ANY vaginal exam can introduce bacteria into the vagina and cervix. The gloves they use are “clean.” And by clean, I mean that 30 people have put their hands in that box to get out gloves before your nurse came in and grabbed gloves out of the same box. She may not have even washed her hands (which means the outside of the gloves has germs from her hands on them) before getting the gloves.

        If you want sterile, they would have to scrub up like they do before surgery, and put on those gloves that come individually sealed in sterile packaging.
        And even then I wouldn’t want to chance it.

        If you are in labor, bacteria in the vagina can cause infections in you AND your baby. Neither is fun. My son had to have twice a day shots of antibiotics for three days because my waters broke over 24 hours before he was born and I was given vaginal exams throughout my 37 hour labor.

        I’m not saying that vaginal exams guarantee infection, but the risk does increase.

        • Just so you know, standard practice for VEs is to always use sterile technique – meaning, yes, we wash hands with actual soap and water, then use an individually sealed packet of actual sterile gloves. The big box of cleans are for non-sterile procedures and if someone has used them for a VE on you, I am so sorry because that was unprofessional. You are correct, though, that any VE increases the risk of infection and that they should only be done when actually necessary and with mom’s informed consent.

          • That must be a regional thing, it is not standard practice at the hospital I delivered in. All I got (from three different nurses and one OB) was hand sanitizer and the same open box of gloves every time. No wonder I needed to be rushed to the ER right after discharge with an infection and fever.

          • I’m so sorry they did that! It seems unlikely to be regional and more likely to be just a really poor hospital experience, because in the several states I worked in as a doula, and the 2 different states I worked in as a nurse, and every policy or guideline I have ever read it is mandatory to use sterile gloves for invasive procedures. Heck, I’m required to use sterile gloves for inserting urinary catheters and trache cleanings – VE’s are even more invasive. It’s awful that might have contributed to an ER visit for you.

          • Yeah, I didn’t see anyone wash their hands, they just hit the sanitizer and I never saw sterile gloves either. The hand washing is one of the things I plan on being a bitch about if I have another baby.

          • This is my experience so far. At the hospital I’ll be deliverying at (any day now!) they have boxes of nitrile gloves out for general things like hooking monitors up to the belly, etc., but for invasive things like cervical checks they have sterile, individually wrapped gloves set aside in a cabinet.

          • Same experience here, but I also had only 2 VE’s with each birth (my doc and MW use them only sparingly).

          • Honestly, I’ve never seen a doctor or nurse do this. It’s always been clean gloves, and if I do see them wash their hands, it’s a quick 5-second scrub, not a full 20-seconds of good washing. I’ve asked more than a few health care personnel to go back and wash their hands again because they seem to think that putting soap on wet hands for 2 seconds is good enough.

      • Yes, a decel is the slowing of the heartrate as recorded on the strip of the monitor. My baby had this when I was placed on my back because the vein was compressed. Of course, the nurse even later said it might have been MY heartrate the monitor was picking up all along…and not a real decel. Why she put me through all the things she did without confirming the decel was actually the baby. I do actually believe the decel was real, but also know the heartrate came up immediately when I was allowed to do what I wanted, be upright. It was immediate on the monitor…from 80bpm to over 120bpm. I have had two babies since, and though I allowed a few VE’s, it was a VERY few (like maybe one or two per labor). And it was only the midwife, and she didn’t make me recline to flat back. The next two births, the midwife would have allowed NO VE’s if I wanted.

  11. Ugh, so glad that my last two births were at home and the only VE’s I had were done by me, when I wanted to know what was up.

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