Nov 202012
 

“Don’t let him use the forceps.” – L&D nurse whispering to laboring mother who was exhausted and had no family or advocates present. A minute later the OB proceeded insert and use forceps without informing the mother of what was happening or why.

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 November 20, 2012  birth, informed consent, L&D Nurse, labor, OB  Add comments

  13 Responses to ““Don’t Let Him Use The Forceps.””

  1. Ok, I can kind of see what the nurse was likely getting at here…but she went about it in a way that couldn’t be expected to do any good and any reasonable person would expect to cause a great deal of extra stress and worry.

  2. This is so infuriating! In what world is it acceptable to perform a procedure that has serious risks for both mother and baby without explaining anything? And the fact that the nurse tried to warn the mother in advance means it wasn’t the first time the doctor did something like this.

    This could have been avoided if the mother had a doula to help her advocate for herself. The right to a doula should be like the right to an attorney, if the mother can’t afford one he should be able to have one free of charge.

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  4. Gee, nurse, if you feel that strongly about it, why don’t YOU say something to the good ole doc?

    • This is what I was thinking.

      • I imagine all the nurse did was whisper because she likes getting a paycheck. Read the nurses comments below. Personally, I think her comments belong in thoughtful Thursday. She tried to help. Nurses are hospital employees not patient advocates. Nurses get paid to do what the hospital tells them to do.

  5. This is my mom’s, during her labor with my younger brother. She was in a difficult marriage, and my dad had left the room. Because her labor with me had been so hard (not allowed to walk, stand, or try any positions but being on her back), she had a lot of anxiety about the process. She also had longstanding anxiety issues due to previously being sexually assaulted and had informed the doctor and nurse that she needed to be spoken to about any and all procedures that happened during the labor.

    Unfortunately she was too scared and confused to respond in the moment, especially since she had no idea at the time why forceps could be bad, because they weren’t used in my delivery. The doctor did not warn her or say anything to her about it afterwards. When she told me about it recently, she said it haunts her a little, and she wishes anyone had given her time to react to what was going on, or informed her about what was happening.

  6. This is a tough one. This MD had NO right to just use those forceps without at LEAST explaining the procedure and reason to mom.
    I have been in situations like this. Not w forceps but w a episiotomy happy doc. While alone w the patient I encouraged her and her hubby to refuse an epis, explaining the risks and benefits. I saw the doc reach for the scissors. Mom was busy pushing so didn’t notice. I advocated for her saying she absolutely did not want that. I got the death stare. The doc then proceeded to make it sound to the patient that it was absolutely necessary for the safety of the baby. I feel like she battered the pt into saying yes. This epis was NOT needed! And I got reamed by the doc after delivery. And later called into my managers office and “talked to.”
    Unfortunately sometimes no matter how hard we fight for what we KNOW is best and what our pt wants, we lose. So I think that is why this nurse said this to her pt. if the pt is strong enough to fight for what she wants it usually works out better.

  7. It is beyond frustrating and makes me question why I even work in the hospital. But I like to think that for every one of these stories, there’s another about a successful VBAC or just a vaginal delivery in general that I helped facilitate. I encourage all moms to stand up for what they want! It’s your body and your baby!
    And if your nurse says something like this to you she’s probably taking a big risk in doing so and is dead serious about refusing whatever. If both mom and the nurse protest there is a better chance of it working!!

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