Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“We’re Not Going To Be Having One Of Those Midwife Style Inductions That Last For Several Days.”
“We’re not going to be having one of those midwife style inductions that last for several days.” – OB to mother.
Well doc, if by ‘we’ you mean you and me… this half of ‘we’ will be expecting to give informed consent rather than let your half of ‘we’ determine my choices for me.
If you can’t live with that then you and whoever can have fun having any kind of birth you like without me.
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I think he just complimented midwives and didn’t even realize it.
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You can have any kind of induction you want, but *I* am not having an induction. I’ll call you when I go into labor.
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Yes, I’m sure you have every intention of sectioning her with plenty of time to make it to happy hour, amirite?
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*sigh* how come doctors on TV are always better with labor? Rachel’s OB (Friends) let her go EIGHT days over and suggested natural remedies to help induce labor if she was interested! And when Rachel labored at the hospital for nearly a day, her doctor never suggested pitocin or c/section! Phoebe’s OB when she had triplets let her go vaginally! So did Erica’s when she had twins for Monica and Chandler.
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Ashley Bean Reply:
March 6th, 2012 at 7:59 pm (Quote)
Why can’t EVERYTHING be like friends? lol. I noticed that too.
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You guys are looking at this one all wrong… how many doctors do you know that are willing to go through an induction themselves just to show support to the mother? I mean, that must be what happened here since the doctor used the word “we!” This shows a level of dedication to patients that we don’t see very often!
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This is a little funny to me. I had a midwife “induce” me at 42 weeks with castor oil, herbs, etc. It took about 3 hours to do and I went into labor and had the baby less than 12 hours later. I doula’d (sp?) for a friend who was induced with Pitocin and she was there for two days waiting for contractions to get strong enough to bring the baby. She ended up with a failed induction and a c-section. The midwife method of waiting and castor oil seems much more efficient to me.
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This was the same OB who needed to be paternal about using Cytotec. This is the only other quote from him that I submitted, and to be honest I can come up with several times more things that could be submitted for Thoughtful Thursdays. This was the same day as the Cytotec comment, and I’m not sure if he was having a bad day with a severe case of foot in mouth or if at 41 and a half weeks pregnant he could let his true colors shine through. If it’s the latter, it does worry me if we end up having another baby before my husband gets new orders since I don’t want to deal with a late 3rd trimester bait and switch.
While I was pregnant I had either pre-existing or pregnancy induced hypertension. I’d had a few high readings within a year of getting pregnant but I don’t get sick often and I always could come with a reason for the numbers being elevated. It was consistently high for my first several prenatal appointments (140s over 90s), and my OB prescribed medication that kept it in the normal range, and when I was taken off the medication at the hospital after my daughter was born, my BP was a little higher than it was untreated but still normal and has been since. I never had any other signs of pre-eclampsia. I mention this because we had discussed the possibility of inducing around 39 weeks per ACOG’s recommendations.
I wasn’t completely comfortable with inducing, especially before my due date, but I would have consented if my OB had felt that my blood pressure warranted a danger to the baby. When I was writing my birth plan, I included a provision that if an induction became necessary I would prefer that if things didn’t seem to be working to be allowed to go home and try again later. My blood pressure looked fine, as did the Biophysical Profile and the NST, at 39 weeks so he said he didn’t see any reason to induce. At 40 weeks 2 days we discussed induction since I was past my due date, but (with no issue whatsoever at all) I decided to wait another week and see what happened. A week later, I knew I wasn’t going to have a lot of options, and I had resigned myself that I was going to end up being induced. I was very much defeated, and he knew it. We had already had the discussion in his office about exactly how the induction would take place and scheduled it for the next night with the hospital. He was walking my husband and I to the check-out desk, and he stopped in his nurse’s office to get the paperwork that I needed to take with me to the hospital with me. He gave me the paperwork, and told me this. I looked at him for a second, and mumbled something about knowing I wasn’t going to be able to go home and that I’d written that when we’d been discussing a 39 week induction, and left to go home.
I’ve already mentioned here and on the other post that for the most part I liked my doctor, and as I put it at an ICAN meeting he was a good doctor, but very much an OB and not a midwife in a white coat. I think that what bothers me most isn’t so much the misogyny (though I didn’t like that) and the dismissal of a differently specialty, but the fact that he knew I was defeated and had given up on going into labor on my own and was preoccupied with the knowledge that (as we thought at the time) my husband would be leaving for Afghanistan in less than two weeks. I think that in some ways I felt like I was taken advantage of when I was vulnerable.
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Poor you, having a doctor who won’t let you scream in agony for days. Wah.
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Bazile Reply:
March 9th, 2012 at 9:39 am (Quote)
Thank you for your thoughtful comment that showed up in e-mail this morning. Since you don’t seem to get the point of my sharing this comment, or this site in general, I thought I’d take the opportunity to share my reasoning with you. My issue is that after my doctor and I had discussed my birth plan and he signed off on it, after I consented to an induction he went back on his word. He told me one thing when an induction wasn’t being planned, and another after one was scheduled.
With that said, I did not scream in agony until after they turned off the Pitocin and took me downstairs to have my daughter surgically removed. I had no pain medication until I was in the operating room, and since I was at the hospital it would have taken one word to have had something either put in my iv or in my spine. I screamed in agony from the pain of the nerves the anesthesiologist kept hitting while trying to start a spinal. I screamed silently when after I was separated from my daughter for hours with no way to get to her and I discovered that they had let my abusive father and his wife into my room when I had not even had the opportunity to do more than touch her cheek. I hurt for weeks every time my newborn brushed my abdomen with her foot. I sat in the bathroom with the water running so I wouldn’t wake my daughter and sobbed because I was a failure as a woman. I spent months in counseling trying to work through my guilt, jealousy, and pain. I had a panic attack after watching someone on television receive a spinal that also caused nerve pain. I finally switched to a non-hormonal form of birth control since the pills I took were just making the depression worse, and without them the voice in my head that tells me I’m a failure is only whispering instead of screaming. A year and a few weeks later, I still have to get up and tell myself that I’m not a failure at least once a day. I’m terrified to have another child, not because I’m any more scared of childbirth than I was before my daughter was born, but because I’m terrified of not giving birth again. I’ve told my husband several times that if it comes to choosing between a hospital with a VBAC ban and unassisted home birth, I’ll go with the latter.
But none of that’s important, and is probably more proof in your book that I’m just a whiny crybaby of a woman who sits around feeling sorry for herself. I ought to be happy since I didn’t have to labor for days. And I’m lucky, if we’re blessed with another child I’m can just schedule his or her birth like a dental appointment at 38 weeks. My daughter was born healthy, and I healed well physically. Who gives a flying flip about my mental status? I should just take some Prozac and plaster a smile on my face, right JR?
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Bazile Reply:
March 9th, 2012 at 9:42 am (Quote)
I realize I probably shouldn’t feed the trolls. And for the record, I made the decision to have the c-section and I don’t think it was unnecessary at the time it happened. Do I blame the meconium on the Cytotec, yes. Do I think my doctor should have paid more attention to the fact that my daughter was posterior and made suggestions as to how to get her to turn instead of just telling me most babies turn, yes.
So, for all you non-trolls on this site, I apologize for my rant.
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Tee Reply:
March 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am (Quote)
You have nothing to apologize for, Bazile. Your story has been unfolding on this site for a few days now and I’ve hurt for you while reading it. I’m so sorry that this troll felt the need to be ugly towards you, right when you need support the most. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean that you have the freedom to act like a jerk but some people just don’t get that. I’m continuing to pray for healing for you.
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Dina C. Reply:
May 19th, 2012 at 9:31 am (Quote)
Oh Bazile, I don’t even know how I ended up on this site, and read your reply to JR. My heart breaks for you. I am an OB/GYN and very much believe that when I counsel my patients I am guiding them the “right” way (even though, it appears, many on this site would disagree). But that is not why I’m writing. I cannot tell you how much my heart breaks for you that you feel like you have failed. I’m sorry for the loss of your “ideal” delivery. Mostly, I’m just sorry you can’t seem to quiet your head about the “failure”. I wish there was something I could say to take that pain away. You are most definitely NOT a failure. There are so many parts of childbirth that are beyond our control (any of us- Mommy, doctor, nurse, midwife). Please, if you trust your doc, discuss these feeling with him- he may be able to help you pinpoint exactly what he thinks the reason our induction failed is. I have found that sometimes, my patients who are disappointed (understatement, I know) are able to obtain a sense of peace if we do a “de briefing”- kind of run through the whole thing…what could have gone better, why certain choices were made, etc. sometimes just talking it over helps. I wish I knew you better, and had the magic words to say. I’ve never written on a board like this, and probably never will again- I just feel so badly for you. I hope you are able to find some peace with your delivery and enjoy your new baby without that being marred by feelings of failure. I will shout it once again- YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE!!! My best wishes for you….
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Comadrona Reply:
May 15th, 2012 at 4:09 pm (Quote)
Oh honey, you were really up against it and you have nothing to feel “lesser” about! (Sounds like my first birth BTW.) If the adrenalin is rushing, there is NO WAY you will go naturally into labour. Your body (rightly) perceives that it is too dangerous to give birth just now. With the pressure of your husband’s deployment and the pressure from the Dr, the oxytocin just wasn’t flowing. In hindsight, if only you could have gone home and holed up and snuggled into your safe birthing place. However, time (and your wonderful body) will heal. If you ever decide to have another child, maybe you could seek a midwife who can support you. For me it took another 2 C/S, and a traumatic forceps birth before I finally “got” it…that only I could be the architect of my birth experience – no one else could save me or do it for me. This sounds simplistic, but it actually involved me reaching rock-bottom and then, somehow, learning to have faith that my body would do what it was made to do given the right circumstances. I have learned (as a midwife, now) that what constitutes a “good” birth for women is not necessarily a homebirth, or even a vaginal birth, but a birth where they have felt safe, loved and respected and that they have some say over what is happening to them. Lots of love to you.
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I had two of those “midwife style inductions” (whatever that means) one *was* several days long, but the other was less than 2 hours.
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