Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
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Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“…You Will End Up With An Emergency Cesarean…”
“It doesn’t matter if you go into labor on your own, or if I induce you, you will end up with an emergency cesarean section, and your baby could die.” – OB to mother at 4o weeks.
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This was mine. Same DR as the vaginal preservation club comment. There was no indication for a c-section. I had a perfect pregnancy with no problems, and they were guessing her weight at 7lbs, I was 2 cm when he said this, and had been having false labor. Since it was my first time and I didn’t want anything to happen to her so I agreed to it, she had quite a few complications from the c-section.
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Your Name Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 9:33 am (Quote)
Your the dumb ass who agreed to it, first time mother or not do your damn research, Learn about your body and your child and tell your Dr no if you are not comfortable with the idea of a c section. Any and all complication are YOUR FAULT
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Sheva Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am (Quote)
I’m sorry, I can’t resist. How many children have you given birth to personally, what type of birth, and do you work in the medical field?
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Dreamy Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 11:31 am (Quote)
What could the chances possibly be that you are troll attempting to make natural birth advocates look like ignorant zealots? 99.8%? 99.9%?
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Rachel Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 2:18 pm (Quote)
Trolls: If you feed them, they keep coming back for more.
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Nicci P Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 3:29 pm (Quote)
The troll is back. Sir Troll, I spotted 7 grammatical mistakes in your comment (as per usual) … the threat of your baby dying is scarier than you think. Especially when it’s a doctor doing the bullying. OP, I’m so sorry you ended up with a C-Sec because of a Doctor who played God. xxx
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Heather Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm (Quote)
You get an F. Here is the corrected version of your troll-post:
[You're] the dumb ass who agreed to it[.] [First] time mother or not[,] do your damn research[.] Learn about your body and your child and tell your [doctor, "no,"] if you are not comfortable with the idea of a [c-section]. Any and all complication are YOUR FAULT[.]
Please study your third grade grammar book before continuing with internet interactions. Also, please stop acting like a 13 year old boy on a video game forum.
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Susan Peterson Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 8:50 am (Quote)
Heather-I loved this. (I used to correct papers for my mother who taught sixth grade English.) But you missed one. Any and all [complications] are your fault.
I also loved “13 year old boy on a video game forum.”
Most of us have some self doubt, and few of us have extensive experience and knowledge of birth when we have our first baby. We are right to have some self doubt rather than thinking we know more than we do. And we want and already love our babe in the womb so much. So we listen to doctors, who supposedly do have extensive experience and knowledge of birth. Even if we suspect they are wrong, we are afraid not to obey them. This was me, when I had my C section with my first, in 1973. I understand perfectly what the OP is saying.
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Heather Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 12:06 pm (Quote)
I blame postpartum brain for missing that one 
I agree. No matter how well-prepared you are, no matter how well-educated, in the end, you hired the doctor for a reason and if you ignore what they tell you, what is the point in having them there at all?
Plus, they can be pretty damn convincing with the threats when they want to be.
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JessicaKC Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 6:24 pm (Quote)
I guess to be eligible for having children we should all go through the extensive training of an OB… since we should know better than to rely on them for medical advice… well, unfortunatly that is more true than it should be 
I am so sorry OP you and your child deserved so much better. Shame on that OB.
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Tee Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 9:38 am (Quote)
I’m really sorry that you were bullied/scared into the section, OP! I’ll be praying that your birth with baby #2 is much nicer! Please just ignore the troll.
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Sheva Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 9:50 am (Quote)
As most of us can attest to, being educated doesn’t always protect us from being bullied. Heck, sometimes it feels worse to be educated because we know we’re being bullied and don’t have the strength or resources to fight back. Doctors can be very mean, intimidating, and often lie to patients. Most of us have been in your shoes. Please don’t beat yourself up for the choice that you were forced into making (which means it wasn’t really your choice). You did the best you could with the knowledge you had. Many of us who read this website do so because we’ve been in your shoes. I wish I’d done things differently at my first birth. I learned a lot of what not to do and who not to trust.
Please ignore people who blame the victim. They, in my opinion, are sick, miserable people who simply blame others so they don’t have to accept any responsibility themselves. They don’t want the system to be blamed, because then they have to admit that the system failed them, too. Or, if they’re part of the system, they have to admit that they are to blame.
I hope your upcoming birth is everything you want it to be.
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DueSoon#2 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:53 am (Quote)
He definitely was using it to scare me, I had infertility and I was scared about anything happening to her. I had planned for a natural birth, since nothing about her conception was natural. I am planning a VBAC this time and when my current DR and I went over the notes from the previous DR. it said the reason for the c-section was that her head was not engaged. I had not been in labor yet, just had false labor, and by the time of the c-section had dilated to 3cm. I have since done my research, which is why I am trying for a VBAC, but at that point I trusted my Dr. I had no idea he would lie to me, I had put a lot of trust into DR’s before that in order to conceive to begin with.
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Allison Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 7:50 pm (Quote)
Thank you so much for posting that. I still struggle with issues from my 3rd child’s birth because I was totally informed, knew exactly what I wanted/didn’t want, and the nurse *laughed* at me when I told her.. I’m in pain, in active labor, already upset because I didn’t want to be in a hospital in the first place, trying to explain and give statistics and reasons.. I didn’t want the antibiotics, but I couldn’t succinctly explain why, so they gave them to me anyway. I didn’t want the baby suctioned, but they did anyway and the nurse made a point of telling me afterwards how many cc’s they suctioned out. As my labor progressed it got harder and harder to talk, after the baby was born the dr. cut the cord immediately, before my boyfriend had a chance to tell him not to, (even tho I’d told the nurse earlier) and the dr. was putting traction on the cord and telling the nurse to give me some Pitocin and I was SCREAMING inside my head that I didn’t want it, but physically I wasn’t able to talk. It still makes me furious, and I don’t want to, but I blame myself and wish I could have been stronger.
I didn’t want the vit. k shot, and that one they actually didn’t do, but the nurse was shocked I even knew what the shot was for.
Sorry OP, don’t mean to hijack.. You deserved to be treated better. We all do.
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road2vba2c Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 12:55 pm (Quote)
Please ignore “Your Name”. S/he is an idiot troll who lives to stir up crap.
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Mama Wrench Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 2:08 pm (Quote)
Dr Amy’s off-duty persona (when she’s not selling medical advice)
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Nicci P Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 5:56 pm (Quote)
I was thinking Dr. Amy at 1st but I seem to remember Dr. Amy using correct spelling and punctuation so clearly this troll is NOT said Dr. The bad grammar makes me want to smash my face into a wall (I went to a grammar school) which makes their uneducated points more frustrating/infuriating.
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Katherine Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 2:24 pm (Quote)
I am sorry OP you were bullied. I am ecstatic you have chosen to VBAC you will do great! Trust your body.
Your Name, WTF! Most woman trust their docs because we have been taught to trust them and if you have not done an ounce of research and are told your baby will die wth would you do. That and their powers of pressure can be too much when you are vulnerable, my friend was going for a VBAC and was very educated but when they threatened her with restraints and a court ordered c/s she caved because she was scared and tired and broken down. Get mad at modern obstetrics not this poor woman!
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DueSoon#2 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 4:54 pm (Quote)
I have heard of this happening. I am actually terrified they will pull this with my VBAC. What do you do when they threaten you like that? All I want is clear proof something is wrong before i consent, maybe even a 2nd opinion.
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Nicci P Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 6:01 pm (Quote)
Sorry to butt in, have you considered an unassisted birth? Or a midwife who you feel comfortable and who is very pro natural birth? My 2nd birth was unassisted and was fantastic. But whatever happens, you need to be near somebody who you KNOW wont threaten you. Threats have no place in birth.
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Heather Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 6:10 pm (Quote)
You find another doctor (or better, a midwife–but one that actually supports VBAC). Which, I know, is harder than it sounds. I was bullied in my first birth as a very strong, well-educated NCB advocate with a doula into a cesarean. I’ve had two VBACs since and learned the power of a confident, “No, thank you.”
Surround yourself with supportive, well-educated people who are NOT in the medical field. That helps, a LOT.
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DueSoon#2 Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 6:58 pm (Quote)
I believe I have found a very supportive Dr. this time, however it is her back-up Dr.’s I am concerned about. I am due in 5 weeks and I am really hoping he doesn’t come on Christmas and she won’t be available.
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Heather Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 8:36 pm (Quote)
I hope you get the birth you’re hoping for! My first VBAC, the ob I was with–his fellows were not pro-VBAC, so he had his clients call ahead to make sure he was there before they got there. He was there for me
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Unless this Dr. drives either a delorean or a Tardis, I’m gonna call bullshit.
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Mama Wrench Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 6:43 am (Quote)
I’d totally let THAT Doctor attend my birth.
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Isn’t an emergency by definition ‘emergent’, as in, one can’t know in advance if it would happen? So, isn’t predicting an emergency sort of stupid?
Unless there is a clear indication that labor is dangerous, like a PP said placenta previa – is there ANY other situation where this comment would make any sense? <—serious question here – really curious
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Tee Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am (Quote)
Not that I can see, no. The only reason to tell a mother that she has to have a section AND that her baby might die is if there is that severe of a complication that would occur during labor. And I said would occur, not “could occur.” Because in my mind, there is a huge difference.
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jaed Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 10:25 pm (Quote)
An emergency – as opposed to crash – caesarean is just one that isn’t planned ahead of time. So I suspect what this OB is saying is, “If you try to give birth normally I will think of a reason to cut you [this would be technically an emergency caesarean since it wasn't planned], if I pit you then I will think of a reason to cut you, so you might as well resign yourself and schedule the surgery now.”
In other words, I take this statement as a threat. He has determined that this mother won’t be permitted to give birth other than surgically. With the dead baby card thrown in as an extra bit of manipulation, just to ensure that she doesn’t resist.
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You said it way more succinctly and clearly. Thank you!
I know this is a bit off topic, but can someone point me to some basic info on Dr. Amy? I have a rough idea about her, but when I google I don’t get anything.
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Billie Jo Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 4:55 am (Quote)
Her blog is called the Skeptical OB. Be careful though as she is doing nothing but ranting and raving against Homebirth or even being knowledgeable about your own body in all of her posts there.
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Rebecca Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 5:29 am (Quote)
While I am a great supporter of medical births and OBs, had a highly interventional birth (I only hated two interventions, but I was extremely high risk so I understand why I had them) and have a negative opinion of unassisted birth (my first son was stillborn so it colors my view of risk/reward ratios),I HATE doctors who are judgemental, pushy, and don’t know what they are talking about (like my anesthesiologist for my second birth, stupid pompous ass).
My sister in law had a midwife assisted home water birth with my youngest niece, and it was beautiful. I like MY ob’s opinion. She said she preferred it when her patients delivered in the hospital or a birthing center, her patients had the right to choose.
See crazy doctors? How hard is that?
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What? Why? Because she was 40 weeks & hadn’t yet gone into labor? My “earliest” baby was born 9 days after her due date, my latest was 22. All my babies had great APGARs 40 weeksis an AVERAGE. Not an absolute. Show this idiot doc a bell curve, and explain what it means, will you?
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