I only *thought* I had a headache before reading this… HUH?!

WHAT? I’m SO confused.

On the other hand, I am glad we are going to talk about this side of the coin as well. We all know that there are real and good reasons for a cesarean from time to time. A woman who actually NEEDS a c-section and is being denied one is at a greater amount of risk than the woman who doesn’t need one and is being coerced to consent in most cases.

OP, I am interested to see the pink think on this one. What happened?

So…how would you explain the existence of my second child?

Goodness gracious, are you so incompetent at your job that you can’t cut something without ripping it? I’m glad you told me that your C-section skills are lacking. I’d like a second opinion and another physician who has more experience, please.

What about the women who have sections after entering the second stage and have attempted pushing? More zombie babies?

Sounds like the OB is trying to come up with a reason to coerce OP into a section while she’s at, say five or six because he “thinks” one will become “necessary”, instead of waiting to see if her body is able to do what it’s built to do. You know, like “we can wait and see if you’re able to deliver vaginally, but if we wait and you get to a 10, the world will end.” Interested to see the pink link.

Huh?

Wow, then I guess I’m lucky to be alive considering I had this happen to me three weeks ago. I’m a second time mom and was at 9 cm in no pain, my doctor broke my water, I went to a 10. She was expecting the baby to be born immediately but alas, no baby. She grabbed the sono machine and it turns out the little stink had decided to turn tranverse breech. She tried briefly to turn him so I could have a vaginal birth, but after about 30 seconds, I told her to forget it. It was simply too painful, even with a spinal. I was extremely disappointed since I had planned for a natural birth, but my baby is here, safe, sound, and healthy and I’ve had very few complications, so I don’t know what the heck this doctor is talking about.

Why is this doctor trying to perform a c-section on a cervix? I thought you did it on the abdomen, but maybe the doctor has something else in mind…. o.O

Hm, well both of my c/s were after reaching 10cm, no torn cervix, and I managed to safely carry and vaginally birth twins after. Wonder what he’s doing wrong that his 10cm c/s patients are frequently tearing through the cervix?!

Ummmm…what? Either it is too late to try to contemplate this or the doc is a bit off. I’m thinking it is more the second one…

I think with being fully dilated, pushing, getting baby pretty low, the lower uterine segment can get pretty thinned out, there’s an increased chance of tearing while trying to get that head back out of the pelvis. Not necessarily through or even TO the cervix. I tore down *towards* my cervix on both sides during my cesarean, but not THROUGH it. The OB tried to use that as an excuse why I could never VBAC, but he was full of it, because I VBACed through that “unusual” scar with a 10lb baby no problem.. and am about to do so again, if labor EVER starts. And even if someone DID tear into their cervix, umm, thats what stitches are for. I’ve known people who have had pretty severe damage to their cervix and was able to carry full term and birth fine. In fact, the scar tissue preventing dilation was the bigger concern. EPO and scar massage!

Then how does the father of my child exist?
His mother had an emergency c-section for his older brother after being 10cm and trying to deliver for a while. He was breech and got his but stuck in the birth canal. She insisted he was breech when she was admitted but the nurses didn’t believe her and it was her first child so she believed them. She was trying to push when a new nurse checked her and freaked out that none of the other nurses realized he was breech.
And to make it better, they sectioned her before she was numb, after she confirmed with them that she could still feel.

Next time! On the Twilight Zone!!!!!

Seriously? Where do you live Doc? La La Land?

ok- i submitted this for my little sister. she was a homebirth transfer for undiagnosed breech. she checked into a hospital where “supposedly” a dr there “delivered breech’s ALL the time”. so he allowed her to labor on. but when it came closer to evening he started pulling the “infertility” card and once those words were out of his mouth- no matter how skewed and untrue they were- the seed was planted. and i knew there was only one end to this labor. i ached for her. being put into that position is unfair.

FWIW, this did happen to me, but it wasn’t a huge deal. I tried for a HBAC and transferred after pushing for 4 hours. My son was stuck and I needed a (truly medically necessary) c-section. My records showed I tore down to my cervix. So my midwives checked with their backup OB (not the one who did my surgery) and he said that’s not uncommon when someone’s been in labor for a while.

It wasn’t an issue, though. I went on to get pregnant again relatively easily and had a fantastic HBA2C.

From lack of the word down, I pictured the tasmanian devil, in the shape of a tornado… Come to think of it, also looks like a uterus… See-thru once you hit 8cm, those uteri just grow claws, teeth, and go berserk, ripping and tearing through everything in sight.