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Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“Bradley Teachers Are All Nazis…!
“Bradley teachers are all Nazis! They make the people in the nearby college town look conservative. Their students just get in the way of the OBs and the nurses.” – Family Practice doctor to mother when she said that she would like to discuss what she read in “Husband Coached Childbirth” by Dr. Bradley.
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And, clearly, Family Practice doctors are all warm and fuzzy and allow you to make decisions for yourself. Right?
Now *my* FP doc has been great… listened to what I’ve learned and been willing to read up himself before dismissing my research. But this guy? Telling *you* who you can’t learn from has the nerve to call *them* Nazis? I hate when anyone uses the term to peg a *non*murdering group… but to use the name on someone else in order to *keep* your power over someone? Sounds a bit backwards.
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“Get in the way of the OBs”??? Well, God forbid the woman giving birth should “get in the way” of the doctor who’s supposed to be assisting her.
I won’t even get into the Godwin’s law violation.
Like someone said the other day, sometimes one face and two palms just isn’t enough.
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Another one from my former doctor. It really has been cathartic to have them posted here. I tend to avoid conflict so while sitting in the exam room I didn’t really know what to say other than “Can you give me a few examples?” I was thinking of a phrase that a friend of mine used to say, “if you have to resort to comparing something to the Nazis you have already lost your argument.” And this is how he began the argument! After explaining how every refused intervention would result in a dead baby (yes he used that term) he did say that Bradley students tended to have the best labors in his experience because they knew their bodies and how to work with them. To top it all off, this doctor regularly had med students with him as he met with patients, so they could learn how to care for patients. Scary.
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Mama Wrench Reply:
October 14th, 2011 at 6:07 pm (Quote)
So… he admits that the students tended to handle labor and delivery the best, he just doesn’t like that they threaten his authority by forcing him to face the fact that over-medicalization makes birth worse on mothers and babies, not better.
Cognitive Dissonance, ahoy!
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Yes, clearly there is a deep and sinister connection between educators who wish to help women birth in peace and safety, honoring the natural process (unless medical intervention becomes necessary) and a political system based on racial hatred, genocide, and eugenics.
Oh I’m sorry, is my sarcastic side showing? Well, that’s ok, your asshat side is showing so I think we’re almost even.
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Ever consider giving a call to that med school and explaining to them that their mentor is an idiot? Just a suggestion. We are all glad you got away from this one. Now I have to go look up your previous post. I just sorta barely remember something abut Bradley and Nazis. It has been a long week. Ah yes Mr. I was trained by real OB’s. This one has an ego problem and needs to be stopped. Would you like me to call that medical school? It wouldn’t be the first time. Well okay last time I called a nursing school.
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Gemma H Reply:
October 14th, 2011 at 5:43 pm (Quote)
I hadn’t thought of that, it’s a great idea. Sadly, there are a couple med schools in our area and I don’t know which one he had a relationship with. Also, he moved to a different practice while I was transferring out of his care and we have not kept in touch.
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Samantha had this to say,
Oct 14, 2011 @ 1:38 pm (Quote)
Funny I alway felt it was the other way around, drs and nurses getting in the way of natural birthing mothers.
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Jane Reply:
October 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm (Quote)
It all depends on your perspective. If the mother and baby are perceived as the most important part of the birth, then you’re right. The doctors and nurses should be facilitating the birth but otherwise staying out of the way.
If the hospital system is perceived as the important part, then the mother and baby are merely annoyances that must be subdued and hammered into their proper spots so the machinery can move.
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Teni had this to say,
Oct 14, 2011 @ 3:08 pm (Quote)
This just made me giggle at the mental image of a line of babies being born and the birth attendant walking down the line, handing them an armband, and saying (in a campy German accent of course) “here’s your swastika, und here’s your swastika…”
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Alyson Miers had this to say,
Oct 14, 2011 @ 4:09 pm (Quote)
Even on his own terms, Dr. Psycho here isn’t making sense. Bradley teachers are Nazis AND they make the nearby college town look conservative? We don’t normally use Nazi as a pejorative to characterize someone as overly liberal.
This rant offends me simply as a lover of language. I won’t even bother with his attitude to childbearing women and their partners.
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Ellen Reply:
October 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm (Quote)
I had the exact same reaction, though I bet I can explain it. I suspect a certain right-wing commentator poisoned the well by making up the slur “feminazi”; there may be thousands of his followers in the United States who now associate “Nazi” with “liberal.” 
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Our Bradley teacher was such a sweet and mellow lady…very easy going and mainstream. But yeah, we got a negative reaction from doc, too (not like this horrible word, though). Thank goodness the nurse was not only happy to work with Bradley students, she had done it several times before….
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Wow. Anything I try to say about this just sounds so…inadequate to addressing the hatred someone has to say in order to compare a group of childbirth instructors to the people who murdered six million Jews.
Godwin’s Law, btw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin‘s_law
If the doctor was so vitriolic s/he couldn’t even discuss Bradley, then the doctor needed to take a serious vacation.
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Jane Reply:
October 14th, 2011 at 10:40 am Jane(Quote)
the site truncated that link, btw: you need the whole thing after the apostrophe to get to the entry.
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Heather Reply:
October 14th, 2011 at 4:04 pm Heather(Quote)
I, too, was going to call Godwin’s Law, lol!
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LG Reply:
October 14th, 2011 at 12:07 pm LG(Quote)
You beat me to Godwin’s Law!
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