Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“If Your Baby Doesn’t Eat Every 3 Hours, I Won’t Discharge You.”
“If your baby doesn’t eat every 3 hours, I won’t discharge you.” – Lactation consultant to new mother.
Um…ok? So if baby eats every hour or every 2 hours that’s bad? Or is this a baby who goes more than 3 hours without eating, but perhaps is very efficient in sucking? Is this LC trying to put a nb on a schedule?! Geez, I must be effed up then. I’m 24 and I’m not even on a regulated schedule! I eat when I’m hungry and stop when I’m full, I sleep (if I can) when I’m tired…I don’t get it!
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This makes me think of those scenes where someone is trying to be poliye by eating what’s on his plate and then spitting it into his napkin when no one’s looking. Since when is a LC – especially one giving bad advice- allowed to make that call anyway?
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I had one like this. I was supposed to write down on this little chart when I nursed. I tried to nurse in the morning, baby wouldn’t open his mouth and was sleepy, my breakfast came, and I set the baby down to eat. A nurse comes in, looks at the chart, which showed me last nursing at 6 a.m., looks at the clock, which says 9:15 a.m., and without asking me any questions, picks up my baby, yells “In this hospital, our breastfed babies eat every three hours!” and took him away for a heel stick, while I sputtered incoherently.
She seemed almost sorry that his blood sugars were just fine when she brought him back bawling.
At that point, I turned to my husband and said, “Find whoever needs to sign whatever and get us out of here!”
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road2vba2c Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:35 am (Quote)
Oh, I’m so sorry that happened!! I would have flipped out on that nurse!
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first time mommy Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:44 am (Quote)
*Jaw Drops* How dare she! What’s with this “Our breastfed babies” ?! It’s sad how some hospitals think of babies as “their property” =( that’s absolutely terrible!
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Heather Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 12:26 pm (Quote)
OMG! No one took our baby without one of us there the ENTIRE time. At either hospital. They don’t have the right! (and in my first birth, they wanted to, but had to stand there telling me that I had the legal right to refuse hospital policy, lol)
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Skyfire Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm (Quote)
I hated those charts. They simply didn’t work for us, because baby nursed almost constantly. I wrote down when she started nursing like they wanted, and then some 6 hours later when my breakfast came, I put her down so I could eat, and the nurse was like, “She hasn’t nursed for six hours?” and I said, “No, she’s been nursing for six hours, and it’s my turn to eat.”
How rude of that nurse to yell at you. Horrible person.
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Kasondra Morin Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm (Quote)
Ugh, my night nurse was like that. She came in and asked, “When did baby eat last??” I said, “Well, he nursed for 10mins and then paused for 20…nursed for 10 and paused for 20…and then nursed for 10 again…that was about 2 hours ago.”
She just looked at me all dumbfounded.
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StaudtCJ Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 4:56 pm (Quote)
I’d be livid. That nurse kidnapped your baby and committed assault, theft (of bodily fluids), and battery on him/her. With how horrible my two of my hospital births were, I am at least very grateful that I’ve never had to fight to keep my little one at my side and safe. I’m so very sorry that you and your little one had this happen to you. I hope your little one recovered from having pain inflicted upon him or her without your presence or consent, and I hope that if the statute of limitations hasn’t run out, you can get redress if you so desire.
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mommymichael Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm (Quote)
Oh hell no. If able, I would have chased her ass down and grabbed my baby back.
My 3rd baby was a hospital birth. They gave me the same chart. She didn’t WANT to eat every 3 hours. In fact, she was my only baby that ate every 4 hours (and my smallest). My others ate every 2 hours. So I lied. I wrote down what she wanted to the nursing nazi wanted to hear.
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erica Reply:
August 13th, 2011 at 5:59 am (Quote)
Thanks, everyone, for their kind words. This was many years ago now (nearly six), and while that experience is one reason I very much hope to never have another baby in the hospital, we are all fine. And if I ever do have another baby in the hospital, I’ll know the magic words: “I do not consent” and “I’d like to speak with your supervisor.” At the time I was so caught off guard that I couldn’t form any words.
What’s even funnier/more stupid about the whole thing is that when he was first born and didn’t nurse right away, the nurse (a different one) praised me for not getting really upset about it. They said some babies just need a little more time to come around, and when the mother gets really upset that the baby isn’t nursing, the stress just makes everything worse. They gave me some pointers and told me to just keep trying when he was awake, and if he slept for more than four hours, wake him up to try. Which is what I did. Somehow, the nurses in recovery never got the memo.
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Can you tell my insurance that? Unless you’re *that* dedicated that you’ll cover expenses if they don’t.
Anyway, I don’t think LCs have that authority, do they?
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first time mommy Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 11:46 am (Quote)
No, but they might be able to try and influence who does have the power =/
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Details Reply:
August 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm (Quote)
Not even the doctor has the power to keep you. It is a hospital not a jail. You can sign out AMA or you can do what I did and tell them that you WILL walk out if they don’t sign you out. I’ve told this story before. I was ready to go home on a Saturday. My GP was off for the weekend. The OB who did my c-section didn’t consider me his patient and the back up doctor didn’t want to sign me out without my regular doctor’s approval. I told them YOU figure it out because I’m leaving. (AS if I was going to sit around until Monady! Geez do I look that stupid.) Okay not keeping it short. This was back in the day when if the grandparents touched the baby she couldn’t go back to the nursey where she might contaminate another child. Guess who dressed princess for her ride home? And slobbered all over her? You better believe the nurses made sure somebody signed something! There is always a way! *Evil laugh*
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This is a hospital, not a jail.
This baby is mine, not yours.
This momma will feed him when he is hungry, not when you dictate.
If you attempt to interfere with the natural flow of daily events, I will have you removed.
You have absolutely *zero* authority over me. YOU work for ME…
…PS You’re fired.
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it’s like this, I don’t need to tell my baby when to breath, pee, poop, hiccup, sneeze or fart; he just does those things. And when he gets hungry, he eats. I never saw a lactation nurse with either of my girls, she came in and I sent her out. I offered the breast often on babies cue and my kids took it when THEY wanted it. I have two wonderfully healthy teen daughters and a son on the way. I look forward to breast feeding this one when he is hungry or on his cue, I find they latch better and eat more if it’s their idea. This is why many mamas get so frustrated and end up bottle feeding. It’s discouraging to think you are failing to do right by your baby so a lot just give up. I say take it one feeding at a time and just go with it. I know it’s different for every body but in the end don’t we all have the same goal? Healthy babies and happy mamas!
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Um… well, good thing I wasn’t with this jerk. While my first ate that often, easily, my second ate maybe 5 times while we were at the hospital in the 24 hours after she was born. She was sleeping off the drugs in her system. She would later get on a schedule (of her own) of every 45-120 minutes, except at night, where she slept 5-6 hours like some freaking miracle.
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This is exactly why I lied on every last one of my children’s forms that I was supposed to record feedings and diaper changes. They all did great, in the beginning they all cluster fed during the day and then I nursed on demand at night. (Not a big deal when cosleeping at home.)
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I had this too…but it was midwives saying it not LCs. The Transitional Care Unit (TCU) was run like a prison camp-no picking up your baby unless you were feeding or changing the nappy; no sitting in your bed; lay in silence during nap time; only parents allowed to touch baby; eat everything on your plate, at the table and my personal favourite, do not leave baby even to go to the toilet! The 3 hourly feeding annoyed me no end, we did have a chart (that would have been far too helpful for the mums!), we had to feed at set times. I’d literally just finished a feed and climbed into bed, when in came a midwife to inform me it was time to feed my baby, I told her, no I’d just finished, but she insisted it was 6 am and the last feed had been at 3am…I was demand feeding, and didn’t see why I would have made my baby wait until the clock said 3, just to satisfy a midwife! She wasn’t having it, and reminded me that I would be discharged and escorted from the hospital if I failed to do as I was told….I pretended to feed a fast asleep baby just to shut her up! Thankfully she didn’t think to check his latch! Sad thing is, one of the mums in the next door room snuck out for a cigarette, and much as I dislike smoking, I was horrified when they discharged her and sent her home, and put baby into SCBU. The midwives were huffing and puffing all day about how irritating the social worker was, and that they were put out by having to call social services in! It certainly helped keep the rest of us in line!
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well its a good thing your not in charge of me huh? And to the lady that had your baby taken from you, I would have raised hell. NO one touches my kids without permission, let alone take them out of my sight. Things like this make me sooo grateful for my amazing nurses with my last two kids. they asked when i fed last and if he was having dirty and wet diapers and left it at that. How horrible of this nurse.
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erica Reply:
August 13th, 2011 at 6:09 am (Quote)
If I ever have to have another baby in the hospital, it won’t happen. At the time I was so caught off guard that I didn’t know what to do. It never occurred to me that they would do something like that, so I wasn’t mentally prepared to deal with it.
I do wish, in retrospect, that I had made a formal complaint so that the nurse in question (and maybe some others on the floor) got some education – in breastfeeding, but also in patient communication and patient rights. She should have asked me about nursing, asked me if I needed help, asked about diapers, and told me the LC would be by if I had any questions.
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Does anyone here ever stop to even think about the other side of the coin?
I went visit my SIL the day after her first was born. Discovered he hadn’t eaten in over 6 hours. I asked her why and she said all he wants to do is “play” at the breast. I asked her what he was doing and he was sticking his hand in his mouth. I showed her how to move his arms and the kid was ferociously hungry. Newborn BF babes need frequent feedings. I wish someone there had told her no more than 3 hours between feedings.
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Kristy Reply:
August 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am (Quote)
This lady wasn’t educating her… she was threatening her. She wasn’t teaching her to recognize baby’s feeding cues and respond to them… she was issuing a blanket time that the baby *must* eat no matter what the baby’s wanted or the child and mother would be forced to remain in the hospital. Do you really wish someone had held your SIL and her child hostage?
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But it was only 3 hours and 15 minutes since the last feeding, not 6 hours.
Yes, it is possible for a baby to be “content to starve” and not eat for hours and hours. Especially if a mother ignores the baby’s feeding cues (sticking tongue out, licking, turning head, hand in mouth, and finally crying) enough times, the baby will stop trying for it and be “content to starve”, which it sounds like your SIL’s baby was doing until it was brought up to the breast….
BUT that’s not what was happening here. In this case the baby was fed at 6am and the nurse walked in while Mom was having breakfast at 9:15am and baby was still waking up. That’s no reason to take the baby away for a heel stick!
If anything, the nurse should have asked the Mom if she tried to nurse, said “Newborn babies need to eat frequently”, or even told her to nurse then. Any of those would have been better alternatives to taking the baby away for an unnecessary test.
And yes, your SIL *should* have been instructed by her nurse or lactation consultant at the hospital, during her prenatal visits at her OB/Midwife, during her childbirth classes, or by reading either before the baby was born or papers given to her during discharge and have been aware that breast milk is meant to digest quickly… but that has nothing to do with what the OP’s issue was.
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They said if my baby didn’t eat for a continuos 30-45 minutes at a time every few hours I had to supliment. I ended up giving in because they were saying he was going to have brain damage from jaundice. He was barely jaundiced and now I know better. He has never to this day (5 months old) eaten for more than 15 minutes at a time. He is 21 lbs at 5 months and super healthy. I only supplimented him twice while in the hospital to shut them up.
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You don’t have that power!
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