Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“…Reserve A Room In The Hospital, Just In Case They Run Out Of Beds.”
“You need to set an induction date to reserve a room in the hospital, just in case they run out of beds.” -OB to a mother
Is this a hospital or a hotel? 0.o …? If they’re routinely running out of beds, there’s a problem.
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JoAnna Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm (Quote)
The day after my son was born, there were so many women giving birth at the hospital that they had to convert the OR into a delivery room — so women were having vaginal deliveries in the ER! The previous evening, when I’d given birth to my son, there’d been just us and one other couple. It was crazy!
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While my 1st impression is “fear tactic”, and an abysmal use of it to pressure a possibly nervous woman to submit to unnecessary medical interventions for conviences….this ob might actually be serious. While it wasn’t long, maybe 45 min, I and my birth party had to stay in the labor room because an l&d post partum room wasn’t availible, when we were told it was we all get over there and end up waiting another 30 mins in the hallway outside the room because they weren’t finished cleaning it.
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Well gee, maybe I’ll just birth at home then. *eyeroll*
I gave birth to my daughter 2 weeks before they opened a brand new birth center. I went to the hospital a few hours after my water broke (like a good little girl! To get my antibiotics.)
They were so busy that I was stuffed in a tiny room with a curtain, that housed their medical supplies. I didnt’ get my antibiotics, but I did get strapped to monitors and get no attention other than eing shoved back on my back when I tried to move to cope with the contractions.
People whisked in and out with no knocks to get supplies, and by the time I finaly got a room and a nurse, I’d been flat on my back so long, felt like I was in transition at 2 cm…I got the epidural after 12 hours of labor and gave birth abotu 3 hours later.
Now I wonder if I could actually have been approaching transition at 2 cm. With my son (drug free) I went from 5-10 in about 2 hours.
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So… if I come to the hospital when I am in labor and my baby is ready to be born, they will turn me away if I don’t have a reservation made weeks in advance?
Good to know, I think maybe this hospital is not a great place to birth a baby.
Here’s when I will “schedule” an elective induction with no medical basis:
When a certain Very Hot Place starts renting out skis and ice skating equipment.
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Hah..hahahaha. The place I had my son was very busy the night I came in and the few days after. I was actually placed in an outpatient room in the labor and delivery wing. That I know of they found rooms for everyone and didn’t turn a single woman away! I didn’t have to schedule or anything, though I did call in and ask some questions because I wasn’t sure if I should come in or not, so they had an idea I would be in in a few hours or so.
If this hospital can’t handle and influx of births, that’s a bit scary and I’m not sure I’d want to be there for my birth. They’re a hospital, they should be able to do a bit of thinking on their feet in sticky situations. It DOES just sound like a bit of a scare tactic to get Mom to schedule something though and not really a failing on the actual hospital’s part.
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Please. They’re so worried about covering their butts that they bully women into having all sorts of unneeded medical procedures done, but they’re going to take the enormous litigation risk of turning away a woman in labor because they don’t have enough beds? Riiiiiight. That’ll definitely happen.
I mean, how could they turn you away? Everyone knows that your uterus explodes, and you and your baby end up as brain-craving zombies, if the OB doesn’t get his hands all up in your business once every 30 minutes to push the “don’t explode, please, I’m a doctor” button that only he knows about.
Speaking of zombies, what do vegetarian zombies crave? Graaaaaaaaaiiiiiinnnns. (Stole that from an 8-year-old.)
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Jane Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:20 am (Quote)
Zombie plumbers clear your draaaaaaiiiiinnnnnss.
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Beth Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:40 am (Quote)
Does that mean that my uterus can bring down a plane if I don’t have a doctor push that button?
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Laura Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:53 am (Quote)
Look, I wouldn’t risk any travel if I were you, under the circumstances. Maybe women ought to start checking in to the hospital as soon as they get two lines on the pregnancy test. Pricey? Sure. Inconvenient? And how! But do you think your OB really wants to hand you a zombie baby?
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That’s when I’d be asking the doc if s/he has privileges at any OTHER hospitals, ’cause that one doesn’t sound like a mother-friendly place.
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What I find interesting, on second thought, is that if the labor unit is that full, they’re going to turn away the scheduled inductions anyhow (the non-emergency ones) so if they admit you for an elective induction, you didn’t need to worry about space anyhow.
Moreover, since a woman remains in the hospital longer after a C-section than after a vaginal delivery, and since inductions more often result in c-sections than spontaneous labor, the doctor is actually contributing to the overcrowding problem by inducing in response to overcrowding.
I don’t think this logic stands up at all.
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adrienne Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 11:25 am (Quote)
this is the finest of Irony.
beds are full not because too many women are having babies, but because the woman who are, are there too long. by which I mean, coming in too soon before their babies are born. the LOGICAL thing to do would be stop scheduling elective inductions and start telling everyone to come in when they’re ready to push. but noooo, let’s get women in before they’re even in labor, then wonder why all the beds are always full, then try to fix the problem by convincing even more women to come in before they’re even in labor…
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Ugh. And, like Jane said, what he doesn’t tell her is that if the hospital is busy, and there are no beds, she “loses” her reservation. Women having elective inductions are told to call in to see if there are beds available before they can come in. (I hadn’t even thought of the fact of the increased risk of cesarean) So what he says doesn’t even make sense.
The hospital where I had my babies sent me home a day early after my first cesarean because they were sending all women home they could because the night before 12 babies were born, and there were women in labour in Assessment waiting to go to L&L, because women in L&D who had had their babies were waiting for a postpartum room. It was also busy the night I had my baby, I was in an overflow room up in the postpartum unit the first night (and the nurse made a comment about it as I was being transferred to L&D, something about always busy on a full moon). This was before the recent “boom” in births the last couple years happening here.
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CNicole Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 7:24 am (Quote)
L&L=L&D, oops
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Cmat Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:12 am (Quote)
That’s kind of what they said to me when I went in. They were so busy because we’d had a nice day after months of snow and freezing weather. All the snow had melted and it was in the 50′s/60′s. One of the nurses said that it was such a nice day that we all decided to go for a walk and it brought labor on for a lot of us! They thought it was kind of funny because it was St. Patrick’s Day. They didn’t send me home early though. I don’t think they were in quite that much of a crunch. I do know that while they normally had a 1 to 1 ratio between patients and nurses they were 1 to 2 that night.
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Joslyn Reply:
August 28th, 2010 at 10:35 am (Quote)
I had the same issue with my son. I was one of the first on a mad rush of labors. The day after I had him they booted me out of my room and moved me to a surgical recovery room. Not anywhere as nice of a room, either. I asked to just go home, they refused, I started crying, and then a nurse put me on post-partum depression watch.
My midwife put in my chart with my second birth that I could go home as soon as I requested, although she did ask me to try to stay at least 12 hours. I did just that.
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Yeeahhhh.
Nearly all hospitals have times when patient load (in some departments or in all departments) exceeds capacity. Some of that is due to population growth, and some is due to the financial constraints on facilities. I have a friend who lives in a small community with a three-bed L&D unit in the local hospital. By and large, this size unit is more than ample, and only 1-2 beds are taken at any time. Except that the month her first baby was born, there were twelve other women due and planning to use that hospital. The rest of the year, there were practically none. Random statistical spikes happen. Scheduled inductions won’t fix that, though.
The thing that really jumps out at me is that, under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, hospitals are not permitted to turn away women in active labor. They may transfer laboring patients to other hospitals (after verifying that there is space available, via ambulance, and IIRC, at their own expense) if they’re out of room or lack appropriate facilities. But if you are in active labor, they have to take you on account of that eensy little Federal Law.
They can send you home if you’re not in active labor, they can bump elective inductions and c-sections, they can put patients two to a room, or do deliveries in the triage area, et-effing-cetera. This notion that if you schedule in advance, you can have your baby, no waiting! is bunk.
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Didn’t Jennifer Block start her book (“Pushed”) with a story about a hospital in Florida running out of beds during a hurricane? Any women who weren’t ready to deliver right away were sent home to labor. They’d come back a few hours later, deliver, and have happy healthy moms and babies.
Maybe if they don’t have a bed available they’ll let mom go home and labor somewhere comfortable and wire free. You know, without worrying about ANY induction (for failure to progress, failure to behave, failure to book room in advance, failure to meet tee-time, failure not to be completely snarky…)
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Jane Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 11:20 am (Quote)
The opening pages of PUSHED are available with Amazon.com’s “look inside this book” feature, and I recommend checking them out.
The book opens when she talks about how a hurricane knocked out power to the hospital, but they still remained open and taking women in labor. But they cancelled all scheduled inductions, and because there was no power, the A/C was out, so they would send home the women who weren’t in active labor because they didn’t want the women overheating.
She said the intervention rates went way down and the moms were much happier. Afterward, the labor ward went back to business as usual, but with a short time after that, every single nurse who’d been working during that time couldn’t bear to work there any longer under the medical model.
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Ally Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 12:03 pm (Quote)
I’ve never commented on this site before (I’m 17 and came across this blog by accident), but the book you mentioned made me go, “HOLY CRAP.” To think that in 20 years, maybe even less, it is predicted that most women, if not all, will give birth by c-section? Scary stuff. I actually plan to go check this book out from the library (even if that ends with the librarian looking at me like I have 6 heads…).
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Katy Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 12:17 pm (Quote)
Thanks Jane. It’s been a little while since I read the book so I’m glad someone else commented on the specifics.
My mother says she went to the hospital in active labor with baby #2 but they didn’t have any beds. She walked up and down the hallway, handling contractions in the phone booth at one end and the bathroom at the other. Once she was ready to push they found her somewhere private. No epidural, no monitors, no wires, and no having to lie down. She said it wasn’t bad at all.
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That just sounds too good to be true! So for my next baby, I call the hospital, reserve a room and I show up and chill with DH for a few hours in a posh room until concierge brings me a newborn? Painfree, workfree labor with no risks…sure!
I love how they want to make sure you get to the hospital by trying to schedule you into their agenda. They have to take anyone at any time if they’re in active labor. This is like the crap they pull with the racing moms in labor. When my OB was busy checking his other patient, I knew I was still in good hands. Those babies come out when they’re good and ready!
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What if I miss check-in time? Will they keep the room open for me? Sheesh!
Yeah, I had to wait in observation for a labor room to open up (and a shift change) and yeah, I had to wait in labor for a post-partum room to open up, but damn… Our hospital here is notorious for running out of room. I actually was shipped over to pediatrics after I had my first because all the PP rooms were full of c-sections.
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I know someone who went to the hospital for a schedule induction, and after being left sitting in the waiting room for over an hour, was finally told to go home because there weren’t any beds available. So much for that “reservation.”
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Elizabeth Reply:
August 28th, 2010 at 6:24 pm (Quote)
Happens here too in the military hospital. It gets so busy that the day I went up there (not to have the baby but having severe pains) one woman had come back four times to be induced while another had been laboring in the waiting room for the whole afternoon and still hadn’t even been in a triage room. Of course there were transition and pushing women in triage because all the labor and delivery rooms were full!
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I am a midwife and here in this Dutch city I work in it happens all too often that there is no place for a woman in labour. If we are lucky the next hospital will have her, but quite often that one is also chockablock. As long as there are no complications most of thse ladies end up having home deliveries and not regretting it, but in case of an emergency it gets unpleasant. Midwife frantically trying to find a place.
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On my hospital tour the other night, the nurse mentioned that didn’t induce by request of the parent because they might run out of beds. Yet, my doctor told me at my last appointment that they induce if you’re a week late. Go figure.
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What if I don’t want to give birth in a bed?
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