Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“…It’s Dangerous To Have More Than Two Cesareans…”
Every c-section is dangerous. But repeats should be taken on a case by case, person by person basis…there is no ‘magic number.’
I’m heading toward what will very likely be my third…both my previous babies wedged themselves into the exact same partially transverse, shoulder presenting position…one so tight it took the doc three tries to remove her, the other after 18 hours of midwife supported, lots of movement labour. I thikn my uterus/pelvis combo is just shaped wonky, cause what are the odds? We’ll see how this one goes.
My point is, every c/s is as dangerous as the next…and a small percentage of them are even necessary. This nurse doesn’t know what she’s talking about. :/
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Dangerous? No, because if cesareans were dangerous, doctors would do everything in their power to prevent patients from having them. Right? I can’t believe doctors would go ahead and cavalierly cut open women if they thought such a thing would be universally dangerous.
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Sorry to take this off-topic, but in light of the recent fracas in the comments on Friday and Saturday, I wanted to ask if the women here who regularly pray would consider praying for all obstetricians, that they will find the best and safest ways to serve the women who come to them for their births.
I’ve prayed in the past for the women who’ve posted their hurtful experiences here, but maybe the doctors need prayers too. May the God of Peace bring grace and understanding to all our hearts.
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teapot Reply:
August 14th, 2010 at 6:42 pm (Quote)
Jane, I completely agree with you. In other areas of my life to pray sincerely for someone and yet at the same time hold on to anger, resentment, etc., toward them.
Even for those of you who aren’t particularly religious, perhaps sending good thoughts, positive energy, good vibes, whatever you want to call it, to those who care for pregnant and laboring and new mothers will help–not just the care givers, but the women involved and even yourself.
It certainly can’t hurt.
And, to Amy Tuteur (sorry if I didn’t spell your name correctly), I know this isn’t “scientific” in any way, shape, form, or fashion. Not everything in life is or needs to be. I think just maybe that stepping back, taking a few deep breaths, and perhaps giving others some kindness just might make a difference in everyone’s daily lives.
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teapot Reply:
August 14th, 2010 at 6:45 pm (Quote)
Oops…..left out part of the second sentence:
It should have started with the words: In other areas of my life, I have found it difficult ……
Sometimes we all think faster than we type.
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Jane Reply:
August 15th, 2010 at 7:07 am (Quote)
I think scientifically, prayer is proven to change the person who prays, at the very least. Any kind of meditative activity does that, lowering stress hormones etc.
Whether prayer helps the ones prayed-for, being peace-minded and wanting the best for women and babies can’t possibly hurt anyone.
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Kayla Reply:
August 16th, 2010 at 12:39 am (Quote)
I will definitely pray, and its beautiful that you made that request, as people (myself included) can get quite judgmental and irate on this site. Prayer is very powerful. Before I became a Christian I was bipolar and struggled with severe depression. I was on many medications, but once I gave my life to Christ, I dropped all my medications and have been off them for 5 years, no depression. Prayer was the solution
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The Deranged Housewife Reply:
August 16th, 2010 at 5:33 am (Quote)
That’s awesome, Kayla! What a wonderful testimony!
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I’m betting the nurse was encouraging the patient to get her tubes tied…That’s what they kept telling me during my 2nd pregnancy. I’d had 1 section, was trying to VBAC, but at almost 38 weeks the baby went breech, with foot first. I had concerns about that & elected to re-c-sect. Before all that, when I was getting my first OB appt to determine how far along I was, the nurse immediately asked, “Do you want your tubes tied?” She assumed I would re-c-sect, and that I would stop having children b/c it was so “dangerous” to ahve more than 2 sections.
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Somehow I don’t think this nurse was encouraging a VBAC.
Yes. Every c-section is dangerous. This is why careful consideration should be made as to the risks and benefits of getting one. But the mother and her partner are the ones who make the decions on how big their family is, not some arbitrary number.
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It’s been suggested to a friend of mine she actually have her tubes tied, because she medically can’t carry a pregnancy. But she and her husband have refused thus far, because they aren’t sure they want to use donor eggs. Look at that Dugger family on TLC, they have 19 kids and are still going, I bet people told them to stop after five.
OP: I hope you told that nurse to go to hell and walked out on her. No one has the right to tell you how many kids you can have or when/how you should have them.
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The nurse was actually a friend that was visiting me at the hospital after the birth of my second child via c-section. She was a charge nurse in a very busy labor and delivery unit at a neighboring hospital.
No, I didn’t say anything mean back. I did tell her that my OB said I was fine to still have a big family, but she did make her point clear that she believed anything beyond 2 c-sections was dangerous and that’s why she decided not to have more than 2 kids herself.
Good thing I didn’t listen to her, because now I’ve had 5 children (all by c-section) and I can’t imagine my life without any of them.
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Hmm….I still contend that in some way, this is like subtle population control. Someone on here said it best – maybe it was through the website – that basically you’re perceived as weird for wanting more than two kids, or there is a negative association with people who want to have lots of kids. I was once told by doctor (when he wanted to discourage me from having a VBAC) that “I’ve got patients on their fourth or fifth c-section!”, as if that was perfect justification to avoid a VBAC and just have the section.)
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I have had two c-section, both of them emergencies due to pre-eclampsia. The first one I was 34 weeks and had a boy that is now 4. The second one I was 26 weeks and had a girl that sadly was stillborn. I want to have another baby but my specialist said I have to talk to her before even getting pregnant and maybe be put on medication or do shots. Nothing was said on how many c-sections I could have.
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The missing piece of information is that after even one C-Section there is a risk for the placenta to implant at the former C-section scar and cause major problems with the pregnancy. At best when this happens it can be monitored and if the placenta grows through the uterine wall the Dr. can deal with it surgically. At worst you can have a complete rupture of the uterus during labor and lose both the mother and the baby. It is important that health professionals explain WHY they make these comment so that the patient can get educated and decide for themselves what level of risk they are willing to tolerate.
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Maegan Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 7:40 am (Quote)
I think most doctors/medical professionals simply assume ALL women are going to do whatever the doctor wants to ensure a “healthy baby” at all costs. They don’t feel the need to explain it…b/c obviously we’re all so very stupid that we must have all our decisions made for us.
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Honeybee-If your friend wants children (surrogacy Im assuming) then having her tubes tied isnt doing anything to prevent that. They go in and retrieve the eggs directly from the ovary. Once the egg is released, it irnt removed for medical reasons. Tying her tubes wont prevent biokids because the ovaries are still there. Not to say that tubal ligation isnt without risk but if she would feel better, its an option. I know this is old but commented just in case.
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I think it’s dangerous to have even one, but either way I agree with this nurse. What was the context?
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Rebecca Reply:
August 14th, 2010 at 4:11 pm Rebecca(Quote)
I think the danger of repeat c-sections is determined on a case by case basis. All medical interventions carry risk, but the point at which risk outweighs benefit is going to vary with each person considering the wide array of variables inherent to medico-surgical interventions.
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