Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
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Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“You Would Have Gotten Him Out On The Next Push Anyway.”
“You would have gotten him out with the next push anyway.” -OB to VBAC mother after performing an unnecessary episiotomy and pulling out the baby on the third push.
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Then why the hell did you injure my perineum you saddistic jackass! I should have my husband sue you for “loss of services” because now we won’t be having sex for an extra 4 weeks! Ever think of that one. How about if everytime you cut an uncessary episiotomy we go cut your wife and see if you EVER have sex again? Do you think then it would suddenly become important to you and you would learn to keep your hands to yourself.
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What a sadistic creep.
I wonder how the docs reading this would explain away this one…
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CCindy Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 7:24 am (Quote)
I’m waiting for an explaination on this one too! I think we will be waiting a long time. Clearly this doctor just admitted that mom didn’t need any help. They just don’t seem to understand that their job is life guard and they are perfectly fine sitting on their butts doing absolutely nothing as long as no one is drowning! They just can’t get it through their heads that most of the time the best thing they can do is nothing. Every drug, every cut has a down side. And in this case they are interfering with a new dad’s ablity to get laid. So when the dad is feeling that the mom is ignoring him in favor of the baby. The dad needs to call the OB and give him what for. They don’t seem to care that if makes it harder to care for baby. They don’t seem to care that it makes it harder to walk or sit down. Maybe, oh maybe, they would care if they put two and two together and realized what they are doing to dad. Maybe then they could relate.
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adrienne Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 1:41 pm (Quote)
nah, cause then they can just sew her up tighter. “like a virgin again!”
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CCindy Reply:
August 9th, 2010 at 5:50 am (Quote)
Excuse me, do you not read. Yeah, let’s put an extra stitch where there is nothing broken to heal so that we can add one more week to recovery time! My reaction to this actually goes back to a study on recovery times. A freind and I thought it was a great angle on my the darn doctor shoud put the siccors down. If they don’t give a crap that they are injuring mom, then maybe they will give a crap about interferring with another man’s sex life. NO THEY can’t just sew it up tighter. Oh maybe you were being sarcastic! It is hard to tell on the internet. This frustrates the hell out of me, because with all the studies available that say skip the siccors and so many doctors still doing it how are we going to get the c-section rate back down under 15%? I’ve never even had an episiotomy (all c-sections in spite of trying to deliver.) and I consider it worse because it shouldn’t been happening.
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Jane Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 8:25 am (Quote)
I got the impression that the doctor was saying s/he HAD to make that cut right now, otherwise the baby would have been born and it would have been too late to cut the episiotomy. It was an emergency situation because otherwise, a vital step would have been skipped.
I think the mentality really is, “Mom pushes, we shout, doctor cuts episiotomy, baby is born.” The above doctor probably would have had a cognitive misfire had the baby been born with no episiotomy even though s/he had been right there.
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CCindy Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 11:16 am (Quote)
Jane, love ya, usually agree with you, find your psychological insights fasinating… Not this time! It was an emergency situation because if he hadn’t done something he would have been useless and he just doesn’t understand his role as liftguard IS to be useless most of the time.
Hey, dummy if you can’t sit still and keep your hands to yourself get some warm compresses or some oil. Put down the siccors you knife happy jackass. In the words of Sara (below) NO CUTTING. It is 2010 what is your problem!
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Jane Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 11:44 am (Quote)
Actually, we do agree. The emergency was that the doctor thought an episiotomy should be done because birthing women require one and she was birthing so quickly and so well that she might not need him. Clearly that couldn’t be allowed to happen. :-b
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Jessa Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 7:31 pm (Quote)
I am not sure if my post went through. Laptop is wonky today. A perineum should tear on its own because it heals better, right? So emergency or not, that Doctor just cut her for what??? Some sort of control or pleasure? Ugh, after my unnecesseran I will believe any stupid things this Doc’s day or do 
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Jane Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 7:49 pm (Quote)
The “emergency” was that the woman hadn’t been cut.
The doctor then responded to the “emergency” by cutting her. (In other words, it sounds as if there was no reason whatsoever that this doctor cut this woman’s genitals. The doctor admitted the baby would have been born on the next push anyhow.)
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I don’t remember too much about the 15 minutes I was pushing my daughter out at the hospital, but I do remember seeing the doctor pull the cart over with the instruments and I looked up and yelled (and I wasn’t making any noise before that) “NO CUTTING!” He pushed the cart away with a “okay, we don’t need that…”
my husband thought it was hilarious. That’s his favorite part of the story to tell.
I think I would have punched this guy in the face.
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Brige Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 8:35 am (Quote)
yup… you rock girlie, I told my husband he had free range to punch kick, assault whatever if someone came near my vagina with scissors… and he fully supported that, although with our midwives it never came up… 
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sara Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 8:47 am (Quote)
That’s why it’s good to go with people that you trust.. this guy was fine and let me deliver my daughter and everything, but he was just the on call doc and I’d only met him once in my rotations with the 7 Obs at my practice. Midwives for sure next time
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brige Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 9:25 am (Quote)
unfortunately, we all aren’t afforded the luxury of being able to find someone we trust… which is the big kicker… i swear… i would have gone ape shit… my dad is a lawyer, the ob, the hospital, well the hospital would be renamed and that dr would never ever practice again… don’t get mad… get everything right!
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CCindy Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 11:03 am (Quote)
Have you ever talked to your dad about the feasiblity of suing for unnecessary epsiotomy. You can’t even sue for unnecessary cesearan unless either mother or baby suffer permanent damange. Much better off preventing the cutting than trying to “get everything” after it is too late. Don’t kid yourself. Your dad would have come up with NOTHING. And if that ain’t true then he should be out there making a fortune suing OB’s for unneccessary cutting.
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sara Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 12:03 pm (Quote)
Yeah, I thought that I would only be able to afford the hospital, which is why we went there, but in the end my 15 minute long delivery with NO interventions cost me 1600$, and of course insurance paid the other 60%! No wonder insurance is so high! For a little more I could have paid a midwife.
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Beth Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 6:40 pm (Quote)
At least he listened. I screamed “no!” but the asshole did it anyway.
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Brenda Reply:
August 7th, 2010 at 1:44 am (Quote)
This. In my case, I was pushing before anyone was ready, and they had grabbed some random doctor. She immediately started getting her tray ready and I yelled ‘Don’t cut me!’. She didn’t stop what she was doing, and my husband heard her utter something about ‘stupid people’. Thank God my doctor came in right then, because she was not going to listen. In the end, I only tore my labia a bit and didn’t require stitches, no episiotomy necessary.
I’m so sorry for what happened to you.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch had this to say,
Aug 6, 2010 @ 11:04 am (Quote)
Thanks for admitting that your action was totally unnecessary and probably punitive in nature.
I DON’T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS! BECAUSE I’M HERE AT HOME! NYAH!
(As you can see, my labour has still not progressed to the point where I can’t type or talk because I’m too busy squatting in a corner of the bathtub screaming my head off. No doubt if I were in a hospital now, they’d be screaming for the pit.)
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 11:05 am (Quote)
Just swore pretty creatively there a few seconds ago, though… 
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After 2 hours of pushing with my 1st, (right as he was crowning and I was feeling the “ring of fire”) I started screaming, “get him out of me, get him out of me, get the vaccuum, get the forceps, just get him out of me now!!!”, and when my midwife grabbed the cart, my mom looked at me and said, “look at me and stop screaming, she’s gonna cut you, is that what you really want?” and I shook my head and pushed so with everything I had, and his head shot out, lol.
My midwife just smiled and said, “I knew that would motivate you!” Thank God it was her, and not the Doc on call. She said afterwards that she never intended on cutting, but she knew from our conversations that an episiotomy was the last thing I wanted, and she thought the thought of one would give me the strength I needed to do it myself.
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Brittney Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 2:32 pm (Quote)
Sorry, this was supposed to be in response to some of the comments above, lol. As for Doc…
He just couldn’t let her out of there without a scar somewhere, huh? Too much cutting, not enough sitting on their behinds… I don’t understand HOW a dr can be accepted into OB program without knowing what birth is really about! I mean, I do, but the logical, rational, intelligent side of me can’t understand what went wrong in modern obstetrics…
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Doula Head had this to say,
Aug 6, 2010 @ 2:09 pm (Quote)
Did any part of the episiotomy stem from “punishing” mom for wanting a VBAC? I’ve gotten the impression that doctors often do things like this as a way of controlling one aspect of birth when they’ve been fought tooth and nail by mom to get what she wants…and has every right to get!
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Jane Reply:
August 6th, 2010 at 4:03 pm (Quote)
I missed that she was a VBAC mom (not enough coffee) but you know, it might be less punitive than that the doctor had framed this mom as “unable to birth a baby” and therefore went for the episiotomy scissors because cutting the mom made it easier in the doctor’s own head. This meant the doctor could preserve the notion that the mom was, in fact, unfit to birth a baby, and had desperately needed him. If the doctor knew the mom resented her first c-section, the doctor may also have been emotionally justifying the first c-section by cutting the mom now.
None of which, of course, was in the best interest of the baby or the mom. :-b
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I’m confused… The mama was going to push out her baby by HERSELF so… he just decided to “help” her along? WTF didn’t he just sit back and watch the baby be born?
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This was my submission.
I didn’t get a chance to log on friday- Family event….
This was the birth of my 2nd son. (My 1st was a c-section and I made it VERY clear I wanted a VBAC) It was a FEMALE OB. She was insulted that I cancelled the appt for a scheduled C-section.
It was a 13 hour labor.. nothing unreasonable.
12 hrs in, at 8cm she said that she was calling the c-section team in. She came back and I was 10cm and ready to push- she tried to vacuum him out on the 2nd push, then did the episiotomy and PULLED him out w/ forceps on the next one!!! My DH stood there in shock when she turned to him and said I would have gotten him out next push.
My 3rd child was born at home. I was in no hurry to get to the hospital after that experience. I hired a doula and planned a natural hospital birth. She came so fast- 1 1/2 hrs labor -my DH caught her!
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StaudtCJ Reply:
August 8th, 2010 at 2:11 pm (Quote)
I’m so sorry that you had to deal with this person. She was apparently going to cut you one way or the other, and that’s bad enough, but to risk your child like that! *shudder* I hope baby boy #2 was healthy and unhurt. (And the rest of your children as well, of course.)
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Kit Reply:
August 8th, 2010 at 4:17 pm (Quote)
Hope not to offend you (because I think you’re kinda awesome. Good for you getting the birth that was best for you and kiddo)
But maybe 3rd child came out so fast because she wasn’t scared. i mean, look at choices:
Hospital: SCARY! I’m 22 and hospitals are SCARY. They’re loud and ikky and smell funny and there are sick people everywhere. Plus the nurses look at you. Yes, most nurses are cool and take good care of you, but the fact remains. They look at you and want you to take off your clothes so they can look at you somemore. Also, there are doctors to yell and make noise. What cute little teensy thing would want to some out to that?
vs
Home: Probably somewhat loud (with two big siblings already there. But they usually don’t smell funny. Plus no sick people of nurses to stare at you. Instead of a yelling doctor or scary vaccuum thingie, there’s Daddy standing there waiting for you. No wonder she came out fast. Who WOULDN’T wanna be there?
Did I mention the lack of nurses to stare at you?
Sorry, I’ll go back to being horrified at your OB now, but for some reason when i read how fast your 3rd labor was, this is what popped into my mind.
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Marie Reply:
August 8th, 2010 at 5:41 pm (Quote)
LOL at your comments. She was born at 1:30am. Her big brothers slept right through it. They only woke up AFTER I was in the ambulance ready to leave for the hospital (I did go after she was born). Grammie was there for them. It was the flashing lights woke them up.
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All my children are healthy.
I can only imagine the reason she did this was because she was bound and determined to cut me. I mean, she wanted me to come in for a c-section. When I cancelled the c-section appt she rescheduled it… and it just happened to be the day I went into labor. She also said in a snide way to me- “You cancelled the appt, but got to see me today anyway” Ugh!
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“You would have gotten him out, but I still wanted to cut you and do the pulling.”
Makes me cringe.
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