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Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“…The Baby Will Die In Your Tummy.”
If you leave the baby inside much past your due date, the baby will die in your tummy!” -OB to a VBAC mother who was refusing to plan a repeat cesarean around her due date.
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OMG!!!!!!!!! Speechless. One of the biggest dead baby cards I have read on this site, & that is saying something. I hope this mumma found the strength to call this doctor a w@nker & walk out, after she picked her jaw up off the ground that is.
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Anne Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 4:12 pm (Quote)
Oh, & define “much past”, #1 was 41w4d, my dates or only 38 wks their dates. And that is another thing, (I am on a roll now, someone stop me) did this expert take the mother’s dates or did they take the u/s dates b/c “u/s are more accurate”.
Okay, I’ll stop now.
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Sheva Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 8:08 pm (Quote)
Don’t stop now, you were just getting started!
And, did you say ‘take the mother’s dates’??!
Are you implying that mothers know anything about pregnancy and birth? They have to listen to their doctors. That’s what the book says.
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Susan Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 11:24 pm (Quote)
Oh yes, that’s a pet peeve of mine. In fact, I’m considering refusing the dating scan with the next one so they can’t change my due date. I got into an argument with my mw at nearly every appt about my due date. Guess which date was more accurate? 
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Well, yes, doctor. If the baby were in my tummy, it might die. But since it is in my uterus, I’m pretty sure it will be okay for a couple more weeks.
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Jenn Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 4:35 pm (Quote)
Ha, Ann S, you win for best response. Thanks for making me laugh out loud.
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cheeks023 Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 6:08 pm (Quote)
That is EXACTLY what I was thinking.
“Well, it’s a d@mn good thing the baby is not in my tummy but in my uterus isn’t it?”
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 10:07 am (Quote)
How do we know for certain that “tummy” means stomach, though? For all we know, it could mean any part of the body that hides between the bottom of the ribcage and the top of the pubic bone.
Hey, maybe that’s why OBs cut us up so often. Anatomical confusion.
Okay, I give up. I can’t trump your comeback. You win.
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Anna Reply:
July 30th, 2010 at 9:25 pm (Quote)
“Tum” = “Stom”. It’s a child friendly way to say “Stomach” since that tends to be kind of a toughie to say at first lol.
This bugs me too. I can’t stand when people say “The baby’s in my tummy/stomach!” I have a hard time not looking horrified and saying “It IS!?”
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Kate, Ren's Mama had this to say,
Jul 18, 2010 @ 6:36 pm (Quote)
This is a personal pet-peeve of mine, and even more so hearing it come from an OB! Pshhh… even my 2 year old daughter knows that babies grow in their mamas’ WOMBS.
As for the dead-baby threat: my midwife told me that first-time moms go to 41w3d on average, meaning that the “automatic induction at 41 weeks” BS at play in most hospitals subjects about HALF of first-time mamas to an induction. Of course, the resulting c-section (and subsequent c-sections for hospitals that don’t do VBACs) just make the hospitals more money. Gets my blood boiling…
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teapot Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 7:31 pm (Quote)
Kate, your comment jogged my memory. The CNMs I went to years ago told their patients/clients/mothers/whatever to assume any contractions before their EDD were false labor, until proven otherwise.
Very wise words. Hadn’t thought about them in years.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 10:05 am (Quote)
They’d apply at two weeks past the EDD, too. 
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Alyson Miers had this to say,
Jul 18, 2010 @ 8:09 pm (Quote)
Let’s try OB to English here:
“I am mortally terrified of malpractice suits and have no coping mechanisms for ambiguities in my patients’ labor processes, and I won’t be able to sleep past your 39th week unless I know exactly when I’ll be able to cut that baby out of you!”
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 9:56 am (Quote)
Poor doctor. Here, have some melatonin and some of the Ambien I saw kicking around the back of my kitchen cupboard the other day.
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I think its a little funny that you forget its called an “estimated due date.” Totally leaves room for error here doc. Maybe a tiny chance you have the due date WRONG?? I mean, I know you’re God and all, but just maybe?
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 9:55 am (Quote)
One of these days, maybe the almighty doctors will grok that we’re all G-d, too. (Yes, I’m reading Heinlein again, in case nobody noticed…)
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This one was mine. I was about 14 weeks pregnant and had an appointment with my “VBAC Friendly” OB. After the second consecutive u/s sized my baby at a due date that was 5 days sooner, she changed my due date. When I asked her to keep my original due date she protested. I then asked her how long she’d let me go past my “new” due date before she would schedule me a repeat CS, and she said, “a day or two”. I had a real issue with this because she moved my dd ahead 5 whole days! Once I started making a case against moving my date, she pulled the dead baby card. This was my last visit with this doctor, and I have since filed a complaint with my insurance about her poor bedside manner. I am aware of the risks of going well past a due date, but I was asking for 5 more days! And it wasn’t as much what she said, but how she said it…not to mention that she said my baby was in my tummy! haha. My jaw literally dropped, and if my husband wasn’t there with me as a witness I’d have swore I heard her wrong.
Fortunately I found a very nice OB and am currently 39 weeks pregnant and awaiting my little boy. I love this site! I think it’s giving women the strength and knowledge to know that doctors are just people and that they don’t have all the answers. Thanks for all the support!
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Jane Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 4:15 am (Quote)
Good for you for kicking her to the curb! Best of luck in your upcoming birth!
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CCindy Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 7:24 am (Quote)
Good for you Kandie. As a woman with a five week cycle who ovulates on day 20 this is a subject very close to my heart. Wishing you the very best and healthiest birth and baby. And Sarah too. And anyone else who is just about ready
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sara Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 9:05 am (Quote)
Similar case here- if I hadn’t been charting my due date would have been almost 2 weeks off. I always told them ovulation date instead of LMP (usually ovulated on day 24 of a 35 day cycle!) and my daughter was born almost most exactly on my calculated date. If I hadn’t known that I would have had to put up with pressure to induce.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 9:52 am (Quote)
Good luck on your upcoming birth. So good that you found a nicer OB in time.
Maybe we’ll give birth at the same time – wouldn’t that be funny? (Update: My breasts started to explode, er, expand with colostrum a couple of days ago – apparently I got a nighttime visit from the Udder Fairy; my back hurts, I may or may not be starting to efface but it’s a little early to tell, I’m still gaining weight and girth, I walk like Winnie the Pooh, my cankles appear to be holding steady and not growing, and my autistic hypersensitivies and overall antisocialness appear to be going through the roof. Which means probably I have a week to go. Two at most. Will keep everybody posted. If you want to see pictures of Catharine when she’s born, you’ll need to friend me on Facebook, because that’s where I’ve been keeping the scanned/uploaded family pictures. Oh, and you would not BELIEVE the couvade symptoms my husband has been getting lately…)
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Me too. With my next baby I am going to forget when my LMP was. With #1 they insisted my dates were wrong & “the 6 wk scan is the most accurate” (my date was 3 wks earlier then theirs). Long story short, every appt was a fight about baby size (they est 9.5 lbs based on longer due dates). Anyway, bub arrived 41 wks 4 days my dates, all wrinkley, peeling like a spud but they listed his gestation as 39 wks on all our records. At least I wasn’t inducted for post dates.
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My baby was born exactly two weeks postdate, despite the OB insisting my baby showed signs of distress at five days postdate, and he was perfectly healthily! 8 on the apgar and 9 at five minutes. If I had listened to the OB, what kinds of health problems would he have had from being born before he was ready? Sheesh. I guess it’s a “miracle” he didn’t “die in my tummy!”
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I still cant believe the arguments I had with my first baby over his due date. I told them over and over and over that it was mid feb, but no they listed it as late January. Since I had only had sex ONCE before, yeah I know when i conceived him, and erratic periods make your ovulation erratic too! Duh! I went into labour after a fall in the bathroom. My midwife who delivered the placenta (didnt deliver my son, just the placenta) mentioned the placental age put me at 37wks gestation or thereabouts. But definitely the week over they were insisting! Thank God he came when he did, he was 8lb7oz, to my teeny 153cm 46kg frame!!
Sorry I digressed, but really. Unless they were there at your last period and saw you ovulate, how the hell do they know??
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The Deranged Housewife Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 7:30 am (Quote)
I had this happen, too. I knew when we’d had unprotected sex, but not my LMP. They kept badgering me for a date and finally I just made something up. LOL So when they set my due date I knew it was wrong, and when I got the early U/S done it matched exactly with my date of conception. 
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Susan Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 7:57 am (Quote)
You know, it gets me that they go by the LMP so much. They (rightly) say the rhythm/calendar method isn’t reliable, but then expect the LMP to give an accurate date? If the LMP gives an accurate date, then ovulation is on day 14, and the rhythm/calendar method works! I ended up getting in an argument b/c I tried to get them to go by my Peak day (ovulation is on Peak or up to 2 days later), but they insisted that the LMP was more accurate. Next time I’ll just tell them I’m giving them a date that is 2 weeks before Peak, not the LMP.
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Jane Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 10:13 am (Quote)
That’s exactly what I did because the nurse filling out the chart was too stupid to figure out what I was saying when I explained about my ovulation date. She NEEDED the correct date to input. So I grabbed the wheel, dialed it so the ovulation date was correct and the due-date lined up with my predicted date, and said the LMP was what the wheel claimed. She wrote it down.
When I changed practices, the midwife said, “WAIT! If your cycles are usually really long and they went by your LMP–” and I explained to her what I’d done. She laughed and corrected my LMP and left my due-date alone.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 9:41 am (Quote)
ALL women ovulate and bleed on a twenty eight day cycle and release their eggs exactly mid-cycle. This is why a little spinning wheel made of paper or a nice computer programme can predict the exact due date. And of course, it’s best if the mother “delivers” at the earliest point possible to consider the fetus mature – thirty seven or thirty eight weeks. At least if she is a VBAC. As we all know, letting the baby stay in utero longer than that risks the chance of a baby being larger than seven and a half pounds, and no mother can safely push out a baby larger than that! (Uncut mothers can add a week or two to their gestation, and a pound of fetal weight, before they have to be induced for their own safety.)
*snort*
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cheeks023 Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 12:51 pm (Quote)
why do they try to pigeon hole us into the same time frame?
My cycle is 31 days long…I ovulate on day 17…this automatically extends my due date from my LMP by at least 3 days.
When my Midwife grabbed the little wheel and gave me a due date of November 3rd I told her that was wrong and that it was the 6th. We had previously talked about me being 100% consistent in all my births and how I would likely deliver on the 1st or 2nd (39w4d… it’s what I do!!) She asked why it mattered if I knew when I would likely deliver. I said because on the off chance that I do go past, I want as long as possible before anyone starts pushing me! She laughed, agreed with my reasoning, and changed my charts to reflect my extended cycle length and late ovulation!!
LMP does not seem to me to be the most accurate, just the easiest to calculate.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch had this to say,
Jul 19, 2010 @ 9:36 am (Quote)
Well, gee, it’s a good thing research has proven that fetuses release a hormone that triggers labour when they are mature enough to be born, isn’t it? Otherwise we’d NEVER have been able to reproduce without the help of Pitocin (substitute ergot and wormwood if the date is before the 1940′s) and abdominal surgery. And then there wouldn’t be any humans at all!
In the immortal words of Penn and Teller, “BULLSHIT!”
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The WellRounded Mama had this to say,
Jul 19, 2010 @ 1:15 pm (Quote)
Anyone with longer cycles would benefit from dating via the Woods-Nichols method. It actually takes into account the fact that women with longer cycles actually ovulate later and the duedate needs to be adjusted accordingly. It also accounts for the fact that first-time moms gestate a little longer on average as well.
With my fourth child, I was “overdue” (according to LMP) by nearly 3 weeks. I would have been forced into a repeat c/s by most hospitals. The ultrasound reflected a later due date, but because it was only 9 days “off” and 10 was the requirement for moving a due date later, they couldn’t change the date.
By the Woods-Nichols rule, my baby was 41 weeks and change when she was born spontaneously and healthy. Because I chose a homebirth midwife who “got” longer cycles and used the Woods-Nichols dating, I was not forced into interventions I did not need.
But because many care providers will NOT adjust due dates for cycle length, an awful lot of women are induced or sectioned when there is NO need for it.
And because women of size tend to have longer cycles on average (lots of research to back this up), I think this whole inflexible due date thing impacts us in particular. Yet while the obstetric research recognizes more that women of size tend to “go overdue”….they attribute it to something being “wrong” with our bodies, rather than to the fact that we have longer cycles that don’t get adjusted for.
That’s where the idea comes that women of size don’t dilate without chemicals. Pssshawww! Respect oue bodies’ timing and we dilate just fine!
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Susan Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 11:03 pm (Quote)
What’s the Woods-Nichols rule? Sounds like it should be used more. I have a friend, first-time mum, who went to 41 weeks (by LMP/scan) then went with induction, which led to C-section. Since I chart, I just calculate mine as 266 days past Peak, +/-6 days.
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Heather Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 11:02 am (Quote)
Funny, but I am on a 28 day cycle, while my tiny, stick-thin friends have 35-37 day cycles. Anecdotal, yes, but anecdotal is how studies start and frankly, saying that “a group tends toward” is just as fallible as the 40 week rule.
However, when I was recovering from birth control still and from birth itself, my cycle is longer–32 days. My first was conceived on a roughly 32 day cycle with ovulation on CD 23 (yes, that means I had LPD with my LP being 9 days). I, like many women, do not have a 14 day LP (I’m not sure what it’s at right now as my toddler won’t let me keep a thermometer), so no “formula” is correct as far as predicting my ovulation. I have to use temping, like every other woman who wants an accurate answer. That’s really the ONLY way to be sure.
And then, throw out the botanist’s 40 day rule anyway (if you want to go by groups, white women typically birth between 41-43 weeks with their first babies, black and Asian women more often birth around 39 weeks… for first babies anyway). By my ovulation date, I gave birth to my first (spontaneous labor) at 42 weeks.
By my LMP for that birth, it was more like 43/44 weeks, but my OB adjusted my EDD (I had sex ONCE that month, so I knew when I conceived–I just guessed with the LMP anyway because I knew I was menstruating on Christmas, but not Solstice) when the u/s said that I was due Oct 14th (she had me due Sept 23rd and my conception date had me due Oct 1). My DD was born Oct 15th. The u/s was the most accurate tool for me in dates. This was true of my second baby as well. The u/s was exactly to date with my ovulation date–Jan 2. My baby was born Jan 1.
http://www.truebirth.com/2008/04/due-date-for-vbac-not-an-expiration-date/
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The WellRounded Mama Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 10:30 pm (Quote)
You can find out more information about the Woods-Nichols method at:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4917528_calculate-due-date-with-woods-method-nichols-rule.html
Also, anecdotal evidence from your particular set of friends not withstanding, there is research to support that, as a group, heavier women tend to have longer cycles. Doesn’t predict anything for any PARTICULAR woman of size, but as a group there is a distinct tendency there towards longer cycles, probably linked to PolyCystic Ovarian Syndrome. The study below, for example, found 5x the risk for longer cycles in women with a BMI above 35.
http://www.pubmed.gov/12410008
By the way, I totally agree that sympto-thermal charting is the best way to know when ovulation occurs for many women. If a woman’s cycles are very different in length (shorter or longer) than 28 days, then fertility charting to track ovulation is a great idea and may help convince your care provider to change your due date accordingly.
OTOH, sometimes you can take all the charting in the world to the doctor as proof, tell them that you have 35+ day cycles, and they often STILL won’t adjust your due date at all.
Although ultrasounds in the first trimester are reasonably accurate for dating, they can still be off by about a week. Ultrasounds done later in pregnancy are NOT very accurate for dating a pregnancy. It’s just another tool in the toolbox, but not the last word.
In the end, a care provider that is inflexible about changing a due date for a woman with significantly longer or shorter cycles is a red flag, as is a provider who moves a due date sooner, based on a third-trimester ultrasound. In both situations, a change in provider might be the best plan.
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CCindy Reply:
July 21st, 2010 at 5:47 am (Quote)
Or you can just lie. O date minus 14 days, yes that was my LMP. Write it down, memorize it and move on!
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Heather Reply:
July 21st, 2010 at 9:03 am (Quote)
Actually, the u/s I’m talking about that dated my first pregnancy better than anything else was taken at 19 weeks and some-odd days. I’ve never had a first trimester u/s on a living baby because the one I had killed my baby and I will never have another. The late scans seem to do a fine job of dating MY babies (but I know how far off they are typically–oh, believe me I know–I had one bad tech who had me dated as two weeks further along than I was in my second when I had to go to a crisis pregnancy center because I couldn’t get my insurance to take effect before I was 20 weeks pregnant and I was symptomatic of twins… and I never trust them for weight at all).
Pretty much what CCindy says is what I did with my second, only I brought in my chart with the LMP date cut off (which wasn’t menses anyway, it was a m/c), so he only had my ovulation date to go by. But everyone had told me what a great OB he was, I was just still scarred by my first, so I didn’t trust them that he could be half as good as they said. I have never been so glad to be wrong
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I do not have the typical 28 day cycle. Can the mama’s that do give me suggestions on how they chart? I haven’t figured out when I ovulate yet.
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JulietsButterfly Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 6:45 pm (Quote)
I use the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility to chart my cycle. Right now I do have a magic 28 day cycle, but I think I’ve only o’d on D14 about half the time I’ve charted. I think I o’d late this month. Even though I would be pretty dead on with the wheel thing if I were TTC right now, I think it’s a bad idea to use LMP to date babies. With DD, I had to guess, so her date was probably off by a good week since she came just after 37 weeks (odd for a first time babe). With DS we were pretty dead on the money. I have a few friends who went up to a week or 10 days past their EDD. Drove us all crazy just because they were so miserable that we hoped the babe would get out and meet us.
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VW Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 7:05 pm (Quote)
I second Take Charge of Your Fertility. Awesome, awesome book. Worth every penny.
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sara Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 9:10 am (Quote)
I do love that book, however I was using it to avoid getting pregnant, and according to everything I was seeing I wasn’t fertile…and we used barrier methods! and I still got pregnant..oh well, at least I knew when it must have been.
Unfortunately DH doesn’t trust the book any more..
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Becky Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 9:53 pm (Quote)
Third vote for that book! It’s by Toni Weschler, and you can find it on Amazon. In the back are some sample charts you can photocopy and use. It explains tracking your temps and cervical fluids to chart, among lots of other things.
Most cycles of mine are 26 or 27 days and I ovulate around day 14/15. This current one though, I didn’t ovulate until day 20, so it will be longer.
Good luck!
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Susan Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 11:00 pm (Quote)
Guess I’m the odd one out on this post since I don’t use Taking Charge of Your Fertility. LOL. I chart with the Billings Ovulation Method (I’m an instructor for it, as well). I can’t remember ever having a 28-day cycle. When I fell pregnant with my daughter it was a 35-day cycle. Billings tracks the sensation of the cervical mucus – not the appearance of it – and so is a little different in that regard. Can also be helpful for women who don’t experience “dry” days or don’t produce lots of CM. I think I’m also too lazy to check my temp daily. LOL But I know sympto-thermal is also a good method, just doesn’t fit my style, but that’s me. If you want to check out the Billings Method, go to the website http://www.billingslife.org
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Knitted in the Womb Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 8:00 am (Quote)
I think that it is good to do sympto-thermal based on my own experience of having a cycle where my mucous was becoming “fertile” then abruptly dried up (just like it does every month for me), so I assumed I had ovulated, was “safe.” 4 days later DH and I had unprotected sex…and then I started producing fertile mucous the next day. Yeah, I ended up pregnant. Apparently I didn’t ovulate when I thought I did, and taking my temp would have confirmed that because I wouldn’t have had the temp shift that comes with ovulation.
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Susan Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 8:48 am (Quote)
I’ve definitely had bouts of slippery mucus that haven’t led to ovulation, as you described. I think it’s good that there are different methods, since some women are OK with charting 1 sign and some need more than one. We’re all different. Of course, the only thing that’s 100% is abstinence.
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sara Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 9:11 am (Quote)
I wonder if I should look this up- I also have 35 day cycles and wasn’t producing much CM, so I thought that I wasn’t super fertile. hahahaha. not.
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Susan Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 9:31 am (Quote)
Yeah, it takes very little CM to be fertile, thus why sensation is important. I don’t think that website has a list of instructors yet, but I might be able to find it. I think you can still get an online instructor at http://www.woomb.org (that’s what I did when I started charting).
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 11:47 am (Quote)
Anal-retentive information freak that I am, I like to combine observation of basal temperature readings, cervical appearance, feel of the cervical mucus, and cervical position with mood charting.
Then again, as I mentioned in a much longer post, I use it primarily to predict my mood swings. My cycles are somewhat irregular – twenty nine days one month, thirty four another – and my husband has unusually long-lived sperm, so as a birth control method, it isn’t my primary choice. Although it does make a halfway decent backup/indication for more aggressive use of barrier methods.
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Heather Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 11:05 am (Quote)
I use Fertility Friend, personally. It takes its info from TCOYF, but it’s faster and easy. Same method, though.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 11:41 am (Quote)
I had very good experiences with Weschler’s book. I practice ferility awareness. However, because my cycles are somewhat irregular, I don’t use it as my primary form of birth control. My primary form is a combination of condoms and added spermicide. (I’m over the age of thirty five, have chronic migraines, and stroke runs in my family; I made a decision in my twenties to stop hormonal birth control at age thirty, and I’m sticking to it.) My husband will be getting snipped this year, and so will I, because even the combination of barrier methods, with abstinence on likely days of fertility, was unsuccessful at limiting our family to two children. (#4 due any day now…)
What I truly LOVED the Weschler fertility for was its ability to help me predict the beginning of my PMS episodes. I have PMS bad enough that I could probably claim to have a psychiatric illness. I like to keep tabs on my cycles so that I can warn people, “It’s that time of the month again. You might want to stay away from me for a few days… or at least wear plenty of padding.” And meanwhile, I try to avoid making major decisions when I’m hormonal. I have learned not to trust my impulses.
Fertility awareness as a method of birth control is underrated – when followed *correctly* it’s almost as effective as the Pill – but I found out the hard way (by getting pregnant with #3) that it has its limitations. To wit: while most sperm only live up to three days at most, some men, like, um, my husband, have sperm that can survive up to SEVEN days. Seven. Yes, it’s SuperSpunk! Able to leap tall buildings and diaphragms in a single bound. Able to laugh at latex condoms. Able to live longer than Methuselah.
This can sometimes make estimating the date of actual conception interesting. If you have had sex more often than once a month, at the window of fertility, and if you are fertile for a few days and not just one day, and if you have factors complicating your basal temperature or mucus (you have a cold that gave you a bit of a fever, and you’re taking plenty of Robitussin because you’re coughing like a whooping crane with pertussis) then there’s probably going to be a bit of a grey area…
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Susan Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 11:49 am (Quote)
I know Billings says that, with the presence of “fertile-type” mucus, sperm can definitely live 5 days (don’t think I’ve heard 7, but I’m not going to doubt you – you know your cycles). I’ve personally never had trouble in identifying my Peak, but I also can’t remember if I’ve had a cold during that time or not. LOL Obviously if a Peak is identified then conception can be narrowed down to a 3-day window (allowing for ovulation to be up to 2 days later and conception up to 24 hours after ovulation).
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I’ve never been regular, ever, so trying to guess when I’m ovulating based on the “typical, every woman” wheel is not going to work on me. Plus, I CAN get pregnant now (it’s not recommended for another six months, since the last Depo shot was March and you should wait a year) but I’ve yet to have a period so they can have fun figuring that out.
And women should always remember: You have the right to walk out of the doctors office or hospital. Unless you are actually in labor, in which case Hubby has the right to carry you out.
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BWAHAHA!!! In your *tummy*? Was the mom-to-be five years old?
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Safiyah Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 5:07 pm Safiyah(Quote)
LOL!! Just part of Dr.’s rhetoric, and proves that they treat their pregnant women patients like children. :-\
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Becky Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 9:40 pm Becky(Quote)
Exactly what I was thinking when I first read this.
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