Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“…You Can’t Feel Anything.”
“Can you move your legs? If you can’t move your legs, then you can’t feel anything.” -Anesthesiologist to mother who stated she felt pain during a cesarean.
Why does someone take up a career involving others’ pain when s/he doesn’t actually care if others are hurting?
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Heather P Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:05 am (Quote)
Anesthesiologists make big money. All those epidurals that they don’t like doing bring them some serious bread. After being handed a large bill for medical school you can go into anesthesilogy or go be a family practice doctor and make less than some nurses. Its a pretty essy choice for some.
Just like OBs there are some who are good at their jobs and some not so much.
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I moved my legs during the cesarean and the Dr. told me “You can’t move your legs!”
Doc I just did…and I can FEEL EVERYTHING. (Serious PTSD came from that let me tell you)
Some women have great painless c-sections, but don’t try to minimize the rest of us who have horrible, painful, tramatic c-sections. Every woman is different, every birth different, I wish they would start treating every woman individually instead of clumping us all together.
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Sheva Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 7:36 am (Quote)
My heart goes out to you. My friend just told me the same story about her C. It’s heartrending. I hope you have loving support around you now, and that you heal.
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Even I know, (and I’m not a ‘professional’ or anything, anyone 9can read it on Wikipedia) that spinals and epidurals can leave ‘windows’ of sensation. So even if the mother can’t move her feet, it is a real possibility for her to have total sensation in a different area.
OP, you didn’t deserve to be disrespected/ignored that way. That’s just horrible.
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Last Saturday I had a c-section where I couldn’t move my legs but could feel absolutely everything, and my anesthesiologist frantically tried to find something that would stop the pain. Then when the meds finally kicked in but my son had to be rushed to the NICU, he sat with me and talked to me so I wouldn’t be scared.
THAT is how a real anesthesiologist does it.
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beccaisadoula Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 9:25 am (Quote)
Rebecca, I am sorry your son is in the NICU and pray he gets to go home soon. However, I am so thankful you had a decent anesthesiologist!!
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cheeks023 Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 10:50 am (Quote)
*APPLAUSE* What a fabulous anesthesiologist. They are apparently few and far between. I’m so sorry that things turned out the way they did; but it truly does make the little things that people do (like the anest.) all the more special doesn’t it?
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Jena Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 11:11 am (Quote)
That just made me tear up! More anesthesiologists, more nurses, more doctors need to be like that! I’m so sorry your had to go through that, Rebecca, but I am SO glad you had such excellent care from at least one person, and I hope your baby is doing all right. You were truly blessed with the right person at the right time. That sweet man was your doula in a place where Moms don’t usually get them.
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I could completely use my legs during my epidural and even put weight on them. After I gave birth they made me wait to stand up to go pee and were so concerned that I would fall over. Does that mean according to this doc my epidural didn’t take??
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This was mine. My epi, prior to my c-section, had worn off on one side. After they got my son out and my husband went to be with him at my request, I started feeling everything. I kept telling everyone that I could feel. My OB was talking to another doc and either didn’t hear me or chose to ignore me, and the anesthesiologist kept shoving the puke bowl at me. I finally yelled at her “I’m not going to throw up! I can feel what they’re doing!”, which is when she said the above.
The only person who was an advocate for me was the OB nurse. She kept telling them to give me something, but she was ignored. She apologized profusely to me in the recovery room, and explained the situation to the family back in my room.
The only good that has come out of this, besides my beautiful son, is that I am now determined to educate myself and my family about VBAC. I’m literally scared to death of another c-section.
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Knitted in the Womb Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 5:46 pm (Quote)
So sorry you experienced this!
I had a doula client who had a similar experience when her OB was stitching up her tear after a vaginal birth. The mother was crying out in pain with each stitch, the father and I kept asking the OB if she could give some local anesthesia, how long was this going to take….
For 5 minutes she completely ignored us…as if we didn’t say anything. Then she started saying things like “I’m not touching you right now” as she was in the middle of tying a knot and the mother was yelping in pain. That went on for another 5 minutes. She never did acknowledge that the mother’s epidural was not providing sufficient pain relief. It was SO frustrating.
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Brige Reply:
May 11th, 2010 at 8:23 pm (Quote)
If you chose to be violent with me I will get ugly with you… woops… I didn’t mean for my foot to fly into your face… not to mention the assault charges… my husband knows to use physical force if anyone comes near my vagina with scissors… I really wish the OB;s name would be on these… I wish women would post their stories in the newspaper..
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Sounds like what they told me during my section. My epi hadn’t worked all labor to begin with (only numbed me from the crotch down), and they somehow amped it up enough to work for the section until the end when they were putting me back together. I tried to say that I could feel it, but they dismissed it as feeling ‘movement.’
This time I will be going for a VBAC with no epi..why bother if it didn’t work last time.
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I honestly think that if an anesthesiologist dismisses a patient’s self-report of feeling pain, that should be considered medical malpractice.
I’m sorry all you went through that.
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After my c-section w/o medication some relatives didn’t believe me, they said I was lying because “of course the Dr’s would have given you SOMETHING” It’s been an uphill battle. There are PLENTY of us out here, unfortunately
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I kind of tried to start a facebook group for those of us who have and this experience called “AWAKE” but I’m now a mom to 3 and it’s a little hard to keep it up…lol.
BTW – I NEVER wanted to have another baby after this because I was scared to DEATH of another c-section, I even had to go to PTSD therapists. I did fertility treatments for the oldest 2 so I figured I was “safe” Anyway #3 was a huge surprise but after he was born (SUCCESSFUL VBAC with wonderful Dr’s who held my hand the whole way and didn’t do anything until I was ok) I realized how damaged I was due to my unmedicated c-section.
Life goes on, but the wounds are there and sometimes hard to heal.
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I also had a c/s like this and it was terrible. The outright denial in the medical community about inadeqaute anesthesia is incredible. “Oh that’s not pain, just pressure.” Uh, no, I can tell the difference and this was PAIN. BIG-TIME pain.
Risk factors for this occurring include a long labor with many epidural top-ups, a posterior baby, unusual anatomy inside your spinal cord (like an extra membrane) that can keep the meds from spreading evenly, or a multi-orifice catheter that came out partially and deposited some of the pain meds outside the epidural space. Lots of possibilities, but often you get few clear answers for why.
It happens more than docs want to admit. And it’s very common for women to have PTSD after an experience like this, especially if the medical personnel deny there was any problem at all, as they so often do.
Many women think twice about any more children after such an experience. I know I did. But it’s important to know that it does NOT have to repeat and that birth CAN be different next time, either via a VBAC or with a different form of anesthesia. I had a second c/s with a spinal and it worked FINE. I then had 2 VBACs which were even better.
You’re not crazy, it’s normal to feel traumatized……but it doesn’t have to happen again.
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I too had a similar experience. After undergoing induced labor for about 42 hrs, my dr decided it was time for a c-section. I felt the whole thing! It was a very scary time. In between throwing-up while c-section was happening(I am very sensitive to pain killers), I kept telling the anesthesiologist that I could feel everything. They kept pumping more pain meds. I remember the dr saying how much my daughter weighed and I remember seeing her (very briefly). But I woke up 3 1/2 hrs later in the recovery room. It was a very horrible experience. To top it off, my scar got infected and I had another 6 months of healing after that. I am now pregnant with number two and I have to have another c-section. I am terrified!
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Kim Reply:
February 4th, 2011 at 4:15 pm (Quote)
Katie,
Just because you had a c-section with your previous birth doesn’t mean you have to have one with this birth or any other birth. You have to be willing to fight for a vbac though. Find a provider who will do them, hire a doula and know you can refuse any and all procedures. NO MATTER WHAT.
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Sheva Reply:
February 5th, 2011 at 4:07 pm (Quote)
Katie, I agree with Kim. You ca Alldoulas.com and Doulas.comn almost certainly have a VBAC. Find a doula, like she said.
Dona.com, Alldoulas.com, and Doulas.com have databases where you can find a doula in your area.
You and your doula may have to fight for what you want, but in the end, it is YOUR decision to make, and NO ONE can say that you ‘have to’ or are ‘not allowed to’ do anything, OK? It’s your body, your choice. It’s scary to fight docs and nurses.
Read Marsden Wagners book, “Creating Your Birth Plan” and there are many other books that ladies here can recommend that you read to educate yourself so you can ask the right questions to potential care providers.
Maybe you can even hire a midwife to attend your birth. That is usually a good way to ensure less interventions and more attentive care.
Please let us know how it goes, my thoughts are with you!
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Trish Reply:
February 5th, 2011 at 8:39 pm (Quote)
Katie,
Yes I was able to have a VBAC after my horrible experience of feeling everything for my 2nd birth. I had to look around for a Dr. that would do it in my area and I called my Doula for a reference because you’ll find that some Dr’s say they will at the beginning but when the time comes closer they spring the c-section card on you figuring you won’t change Dr’s so late in the game. But ask your Doula or Midwife or find one they will know they true Dr’s who are willing to do a VBAC.
I’ve had one successful VBAC and I’m 18 weeks pregnant and going to have another one (hopefully) with the same understanding caring Dr. who did the last VBAC.
Katie – if you want someone to talk to that’s been there, please email me I will be happy to help you in anyway I can I completely understand where you are coming from and the fear you have for your next birth. You need lots of postive support around you. Hugs XXX my email is single (underscore) lds (at) hotmail (dot) com. That’s my “throw away” account so if you email me I will give you my personal one…but just in case it gets out into the wrong hands
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Sounds similar to something the doctor told me. “It’s just pressure.” Um, no that’s pain.
Something I LOATHE is when people (docs, nurses, mothers, husbands) try to tell you what you feel/want. Like the previous entry. “You don’t want to try that.” “You can’t feel anything.” Don’t even BEGIN to think that you can get inside MY head and know what I’M thinking! This is MY body. If I say I want to try something, don’t tell me I don’t want to. If I feel something, don’t tell me I don’t. It’s arrogant, inconsiderate, rude and just downright WRONG!
/soapbox
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Jayn Reply:
May 13th, 2010 at 1:59 pm Jayn(Quote)
I can’t remember where I found this, but I still love this Q&A:
Q–Is it true that what I feel during labour isn’t pain, just pressure?
A–Yes. In the same way that a tornado is a bit of wind.
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