Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“Nursing…While Pregnant Is The Same Effect As Hooking You Up To An IV Of Pitocin.”
“Nursing your 9 month old son while pregnant is the same effect as hooking you up to an IV of pitocin.” -OB to mother at a prenatal visit, who was nursing while pregnant with another child.
um, no? someone must have been absent that week in anatomy class. the uterus builds up a supply of oxytocin receptors over the course of the pregnancy. the body is pretty smart! there are far fewer receptors at the beginning than at the end. miscarriages happen – I know, it happened to me – but there is just no scientific evidence that nursing contributes to them. it’s an old wi…make that an old ob’s tale.
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maaaaaaybe if you haven’t already been nursing the entire pregnancy??
my son weaned himself at 17 months, I was about 3 months pregnant.
when I had to have my induction at 35 weeks, i was using a breastpump (since the pit wasn’t quite working yet) and started having regular contractions. (until they made me stop using it. “we can’t measure how much oxytocin your body is producing, and we don’t want to hyperstimulate your uterus…..”)
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Serene Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 4:36 am (Quote)
OK I have to agree with their reaction to that. Same as they prefer to do the NST with medication rather than nipple stimulation. They just cannot get accurate results, and if there were to be a sudden surge in the dose of -tocins you received (eg, kink in the line, poor mixing, sudden let-down reflex), then they may not be able to reverse it in time because they simply dont know what sort of dosage they are reversing.
That said, they probably should have said something about that BEFORE the induction started, including recommending or banning NSI in the “informed patient” process… Thats just sloppy on their part!
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Haha, I’m doing exactly this right now (nursing a 9 month old), and I’m 13 weeks pregnant with twins. How silly! I’m not saying the nutritional needs of 4 people on one body isn’t a doozy, but I certainly haven’t had any bleeding or contracting. How ridiculous!
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You know, if this were true (that nursing/breast stimulation during pregnancy could endanger or end a pregnancy) there would be no abortion laws, because such a thing could *not* be regulated. There would be no need for abortion clinics, because women could induce an abortion in the privacy of their own homes, too.
Not wanting to start a debate, just pointing out how utterly stupid such a comment is.
I nursed my first child through my second pregnancy, never had any problems with “threatened” pre-term labor. Gave birth to at 39w4d to an 8#8oz VBAC baby who was 2# larger than his cesarean-born sister (primigravida breech section at onset of labor). Tandem nursed for 9 months or so and then continued until he weaned himsels, which I’m sorry to say I’m not sure when that was (second baby syndrome).
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Good thing inductions almost always fail preterm without cervical ripening and even then they still usually fail. Granted It might not be a good idea if you have a history of PTL or are having multiples, but even pregnant with twins I nursed my DS until my milk was gone and he selfweaned (at 14 months I was 3 months pregnant with twins). I carried to 39 1/2 weeks!
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I guess that IV of pitocin just doesn’t work on me! 39w4d 10lb 2oz HBAC baby, still tandem nursing 10 months later with his 3 year old sister
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So by this theory I guess we shouldn’t have sex then either.
I nursed my daughter throughout my whole pregnancy, and I didn’t have a single contraction until 40 weeks 5 days, the day before my son was born.
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Hey, so to all the moms who nursed throughout their second pregnancy, i have always heard that once you get pregnant again your milk supply diminishes (guess this isnt so), but is there anything special you needed to do to keep your supply up. Im interested in doing this when we have children. thanks for any advice.
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Jane Reply:
March 13th, 2010 at 3:53 pm (Quote)
My milk supply did go down to about nothing during the second trimester, and I think I was nearly dry in the third, but two days after th e birth, my milk came back in with a “BOOM!” you could hear four miles away, and my toddler was the happiest child on earth. He seriously looked up, said, “Good milk again!” (because it was back) and then tucked in to nurse for thirty minutes straight.
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Kelsy Reply:
March 13th, 2010 at 9:27 pm (Quote)
How old were your older children who were breastfeeding during the pregnancy? Thanks so much!
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Jane Reply:
March 14th, 2010 at 6:09 am (Quote)
My oldest was three. I didn’t want him to still be nursing then, but I’d nearly gotten him weaned (at 2 years 8 months) when our unborn baby was diagnosed with anencephaly, which is a fatal birth defect. So I stopped trying to force the kid to wean and he went on to nurse just at mornings, naptimes and nighttimes for the rest of the pregnancy. Three days after the birth, he was delighted when the milk came back.
I BF’d him for two or three more months while pumping for a milk bank, and then he weaned.
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You milk doesn’t diminish exactly. It will often change flavor so you r current nursing child won’t want to nurse as much. I have nursed thru quite a few pregnancies. Nursing doesn’t cause miscarriage. But you can often have low progesterone due to nursing that can cause miscarriage if you nurse while pregnant. So the nursing doesn’t cause contractions that cause a miscarriage, they cause lower progesterone levels for some women which can lead to miscarriage. I have had three miscarriages due to low progesterone because I was nursing. I didn’t figure it out until I became pregnant with #3 literally a week and a half after losing a pregnancy at 7 weeks. I started on progesterone and carried him to 39 weeks. I continues to nurse #2 as well. And then I used progesterone while pregnant with #4 and still nursing #3.
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“OH, so thats why you’d rather give pit than let me nurse my newborn to facilitate placental delivery? I’m sorry, but I think you might need to go back to school for a while before I will let you be my OB. BYE!” *grabs 9 month old and runs out door, never to return*
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I just saw this! This was my entry. I knew he was wrong having known many who nursed while pregnant. I ignored him and nursed anyhow. What was most upsetting was that if he was so ignorant about this, what else was he totally uneducated about??
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Nursing a toddler is disgusting, its more about the moms need of not wanting to let go of a baby than the baby actually wanting to nurse. You women are gross. a baby will only get immunites from the mother until about 6 months after it is born. If a child is old enough to pull your shirt up in public, its time to stop. gross.
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Susan Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 9:39 am (Quote)
I’m sorry you feel that way. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but the average age for stopping breastfeeding is over 2; the World Health Organisation recommends breastfeeding for a *minimum* of 2 years. There are also more antibodies in the milk after 1 year than before, and the child definitely still gets benefits from it after 6 months.
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Rebecca Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 11:06 am (Quote)
Really? Because 15 ounces of breast milk a day during the second year provides
* 29% of energy requirements
* 43% of protein requirements
* 36% of calcium requirements
* 75% of vitamin A requirements
* 76% of folate requirements
* 94% of vitamin B12 requirements
* 60% of vitamin C requirements
Nursing toddlers are also less prone to illness (Gulick,1986) while being more socially well adjusted (Ferguson, 1987). Furthermore, Katherine Dettwyler showed that the physiological age for weaning is actually somewhere between 2 and 7, as that is when baby teeth (aka milk teeth) come in and are lost.
Anonymous, you may feel that it is disgusting and that is your opinion. But please, back up your opinions with facts instead of conjecture.
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Rebecca Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 11:08 am (Quote)
and Anonymous, if you’d like to learn the facts about breastfeeding and it’s benefits to babies, toddlers and moms, please feel free to visit kellymom.com.
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Susan Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 11:50 am (Quote)
Thanks for the sources! I personally think continued breastfeeding is why my son had such a mild case of chicken pox (he was 18/19 months old). He’s 2.5 now and still happily nursing.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 1:13 pm (Quote)
Good books to read include _Our Babies, Our Selves_, anything published by the La Leche League, and stuff written by Sarah Hrdy and Jane Goodall if you’re interested in comparing human nursing habits to the habits of our primate cousins.
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Kat Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 12:20 pm (Quote)
My child had a severe milk allergy, and could not “transition to cow’s milk” as so many experts command parents to do. The continued benefits of nursing to children, well beyond 6 months, have already been pointed out.
Why cut out such a significant source of nutrition, just when a child enters a stage notorious for being “picky” about food? Yes, maybe the healthy breakfast I prepared ended up in his hair, maybe that well-balanced lunch ended up on the floor, but as long as he still had some breastmilk, he was getting nutrients and essential substances to help his digestion mature.
“If a child is old enough to pull your shirt up in public, its time to stop.”
No, I must respectfully disagree. If the child is old enough to tug on your shirt, it is time to teach boundaries, waiting until we get to a safe place/return home, asking politely instead of demanding. It does not mean the mother and child *must* cease their nursing relationship if it is still mutually desired to continue.
And as for the child not wanting to nurse, have you ever tried to *make* a child nurse who was done? It is not possible. Once the child is no longer interested, the mom couldn’t force the breastfeeding relationship to continue, even if she wanted to, and most moms of nursing toddlers are happy to see their child has developed to the point where he/she is ready to stop nursing. Just because one person chooses to stop nursing at a certain point doesn’t mean that choice is the only right one for every family, everywhere.
Finally, your use of the word “gross” to describe the breastfeeding relationship leads me to suspect you are a troll, and do not actually have any firsthand experience with breastfeeding. I simply present my comments for other visitors to this site to think about and hopefully realize there’s nothing “gross” about a human mother feeding her human offspring human milk.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 1:11 pm (Quote)
Hmm. Personally, I think bigotry and culturally-induced fixation on a mother’s mammaries as inherent sex toys (to the point of seeing a nursing toddler as committing an obscene act or the mother as committing a form of child sexual abuse) is what’s disgusting.
Especially since in most cultures, if you bother to pick up a few anthropology texts and read (warning, they are usually written at a tenth grade reading level or higher) it becomes obvious that the vast majority of world cultures practice “extended” nursing, as do primates in general. Also that the human brain does most of its development in the years from birth to age three, and funny, most toddlers, if allowed to self wean, tend to stop nursing spontaneously somewhere between age two and a half and four.
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Jane Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 1:15 pm (Quote)
So do you think it’s time for me to wean my high school senior? I kind of figured she’d have to wean next year when she went to college anyhow.
(Er, I mean, yes I agree that’s probably a trolling post. How quaint! I hadn’t seen many of those around here for a while.)
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 1:02 pm (Quote)
If you live in Mongolia, it is perfectly acceptable to allow your high school senior to nurse.
Provided he is on the wrestling team.
No, seriously. In Mongolia, children are never really formally weaned, although most lose interest at age four or five or six. When children continue to nurse after that, if male, they are said to be natural wrestlers, and urged to take up that sport.
The things I get from reading Mothering magazine.
Mongolia sounds cool. I think even I would find my boundaries pushed a little hard by nursing extended for that long, but hey, I’m Western, what would I know?
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Oh yeah, the WHO recommends that you breastfeed your child until two. Notice how it is the WORLD health organization and not exclusively for the US. Maybe this is because in the united states, most families that have children, also have the resources to feed their children something other than rice and dirty water. We do not live in a third world country, therefore we do not need to breastfeed our children until the age of 8. I do not see anything wrong with mothers breastfeeding their children up until about one, as long as women are appropriate about it. it just makes me sick to see women who get so upset about being told to cover up their breasts in a public place, when their five your old is liftng their shirt up going, MOMMYS BOOBIES MOMMIES BOOBIE. when its an infant, people expect them to feed their children, not a school age child that can talk and eat solid food. If you like facts so much, Take a look at this chart: http://www.who.int/features/qa/21/en/index.html
Breast milk should NOT be a toddlers primary source of nutrition, like i have seen so many crunchy granola mommies proudly state about thier children. Its wrong.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 12:59 pm (Quote)
Well, it’s certainly wrong if the mother is taking certain psychiatric medications to control severe symptoms of OCD and general anxiety – many meds are perfectly safe to use by nursing mothers, but the major tranquilizers tend to leak into the milk, also tend to reduce milk output. Not ideal unless you want to get your kids high on secondhand medicine.
Some of the antipsychotics on the market (if not all) also pose a definite no-no to nurse-nurse.
Then there’s the issue of personality disorders that can be comorbid with such conditions as anxiety disorders (OCD is an anxiety disorder) and bipolar disorder. There isn’t really any effective treatment for things like borderline personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, etc because not only are these disorders not caused by wonky brain chemistry in the first place, but the patient also does not generally believe s/he has a disorder in the first place, and so resists treatment.
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Susan Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm (Quote)
Regarding that link, I don’t think any of us are saying that a child over the age of 1 should be exclusively breastfed. Nor do I know anyone who exclusively breastfed past that age, with the possible exception of a child who had cancer and couldn’t keep anything but breastmilk down during his chemo – but that was a limited time period.
I don’t think it appropriate for a 5-year-old (or 2-year-old) to lift up his mother’s shirt and shout about it in public, or at home. This doesn’t mean breastfeeding can’t continue, just that the mother needs to instruct the child to ask in a better way. My son has asked in public since turning 2, but did so quietly, and most of the time I could explain that he could nurse when we got home.
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CCindy Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 5:36 am (Quote)
Trollie obviously didn’t read her link in detail. It clearly says to introduce food at 6 months but continue breastfeeding to at least 2 years. It is not an all or nothing thing. She has hang-ups that she needs to get over. Or she could learn to mind her own business.
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Serene Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 am (Quote)
I wonder what you would say about my AUSTRALIAN Obstetrician encouraging me, a diabetic with a thyroid and heart condition, to breastfeed IF I COULD for as LONG as I could, to protect my daughter from the same illnesses I have. Neither of my conditions is lifestyle related, it is all inherited. The best thing I can do for her is to breastfeed her as long as I can. She will be 2 in the end of October. Considering her paediatrician said to me before she was born that she would need to be on AT LEAST one medication for thyroid trouble before she was one, she is doing pretty well to be on none. Oh yeah. Now that this paed KNOWS she is still breastfed, that is what she attributes it to, and that is what she recommends for ALL the women she comes across with my medical background. Only problem is that this particular mix of conditions is notorious for poor milk supply. Nothing that loads of skin-to-skin time and suckling cant fix.
While I am here,
Thankyou God for my breasts, for the ability to nourish my children, that the milk they made has kept my daughter well.
In Jesus’ name.
Amen.
Suck on that, Troll!
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Oh look anon has changed her name to Troll. Same person, same logo=same e-mail! Well at least she is honest.
I personally find nursing to 12-18 months optimum. And since I consider them toddlers the minute they start walking and mine started walking at 9, 10 and 12 months. Yes, I’ve nursed a toddler (two actually.) 6 months is far too young to stop. Teeth are not a problem. And mine each learned a word for it around 8 months. So I’m not buying that excuse to stop either. I’m not into the nursing 5 year olds. I don’t know a single person who has gone that far. The nursing 3 years olds I’ve known have been mostly for nap time and bed time and they accept no for an answer in public. So Trollie can go away.
I believe the point was that a Doc should know better and should expect to see some tandem nursing in every practise.
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Sarah Dorrance-Minch Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 12:52 pm (Quote)
Hmm. Having never seen any of the Shrek movies except for the first one, does Fiona nurse her offspring past the colic age? Oh, wait, they’re not trolls, they’re ogres. Never mind.
But I’m sure baby ogres get plenty of mothers’ milk.
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Susan Reply:
July 22nd, 2010 at 10:53 pm (Quote)
Teeth are definitely not a problem, thankfully. My son got teeth at just over 4 months, and there’s no way I was going to stop breastfeeding at that point. Now that he’s 2.5 he breastfeeds when he wakes up, at nap, and bedtime. I actually do know of a couple of 5-year-olds who still breastfed on occasion, but it wasn’t often, AFAIK, once a day or less. But as has been pointed out earlier, they still benefit from the breastmilk past 1 and 2.
I agree that doctors should expect tandem feeding with at least one of their patients. Thankfully my midwives and Health Visitor are perfectly happy that I tandem-feed.
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Serene Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 4:55 am (Quote)
*jealous*
My little one bites like nothing else! I wonder if it is diminishing a bit, from the meds I take, or if she is teething again. My 10yo had all his teeth to his 3yo molars by 20 months… looks like bubba will have all hers by 2yrs as well! She bit hard this morning as she fell asleep and boy did I howl! Yeesh!
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Susan Reply:
July 23rd, 2010 at 5:03 am (Quote)
My son bit when he first got teeth – ouch! He quickly learnt not to do that. Then when he was getting the 2-year molars he’d clamp down with his teeth, but not actually bite. Of course, I was also 6 months pregnant by then, so my supply was diminishing, too.
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hm, in my experience this one is both true and not true
when I was not in labor, it wasn’t, I nursed my then 2.5 year old all up to the end, and I never got more than a few BH
when I was in labor, it was I think, it totally got my contractions intense
so I guess, in both cases, advantageous!
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lol, well then definitely call my induction ‘failure to progress’! Nursing my hearty 2yo and due in 8 weeks.
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Heather Reply:
March 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm Heather(Quote)
LOL! Mine, too! I nursed through my whole pregnancy. My VBAC baby was born at 39 weeks, 6 days. I will say that nursing works great to keep the contractions going if they start dying off, though
The nurse during my labor actually told me to get to nursing my toddler when my contractions petered off, lol. And it worked nicely.
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