Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
Posted by My OB said WHAT?!?.
“…You Are So Arrogant and And Adamant About How You Want To Be Treated.”
“You are going to have a great deal of difficulty finding anyone to care for you if you are so arrogant and adamant about how you want to be treated”. -OB to a pregnant woman who she declared high risk, who had asked the doctor to reconsider based on other medical professionals familar with her issues, who were recommending that she NOT be considered high risk.
You know, doc, it IS possible to get your point across without name-calling.
Just say what you meant – I don’t agree with the other doctors, and I want to be in charge of your care.
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Laura Reply:
March 1st, 2010 at 8:16 am (Quote)
OMG, yes. Exactly. This guy needs to watch some more Dr. Phil or take an interpersonal communication class or something — the way to convince someone you’re right is not to call them arrogant. That’s called an ad hominem argument. What do they TEACH in med school these days?
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I had a friend who was very high risk with a previous c-section to boot. She knew that she had been lied to during the previous c-section, so she searched high and low for a doctor that would allow her the chance to vbac. She found one and while, things did not work out due to her high risk situation, and she had to have another c-section, she felt more at peace with it than with her first.
Was she arrogant? No, she just wanted the best possible care for herself and her baby.
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Jennifer B. Reply:
March 1st, 2010 at 12:12 pm (Quote)
That’s me exactly… “high risk” and trying for a VBAC after researching for the past 3 years… switched docs 3 times this pregnancy! If that makes me arrogant, I am ok with that!
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Oh, you’re so right doctor, I have been so arrogant to decide that I want to consult multiple resources to determine my own health care. Thank you for helping me see the error of my ways. I will therefore pass off all responsibility of my body to you. You don’t mind me calling at 2:00am because the prenatal vitamins you prescribed are making me constipated, do you? You know more about my body than I do and I should consult you in everything.
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This was mine, the OB was using this bogus ‘high risk’ lable to risk me out of her clinic, and, by the laws in this state, out of midwife care. This OB also lied to me about her c-section rate. Throughout this pregnancy I’ve been lied to repeatedly, had appointments summarily canceled, records reflecting the opposite of what the OB said to me in peron, my records lost 4 times, and had the doula we contracted in early pregnancy suddenly stop returning calls/texts/messages and disappear on us. I’m stuck without any choice to change providers with the ‘high risk fellows’ in the local teaching hospital (who lost the records 2 of the 4 times), they are the only ones who will see me. There are 8 of them in the fellowship and they won’t even tell me who I am scheduled to see for a prenatal appointment. Its been a certified disaster that just keeps getting worse, still 4 weeks to go.
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Jespren, I really hope you are able to have the birth you want. I wish I had suggestions, but I’m at a loss. Just remember, you have the right to refuse services. You may have to ask for an AMA form (I had to do so with my son), but do so with caution. You will have to walk a fine line between pushing for the birth you want and safety. May I ask why she insisted on considering you high-risk?
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Jespren Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 5:45 pm (Quote)
Not at all, I have Ehlers-Danlos Hypermobility, its a fairly rare genetic disorder that, ultimately, have very little impact on pregnancy. It does raise the risk for placenta previa, which is why I was seeing an OB before I sought a midwife, because I wanted an ultrasound to rule out placenta previa. Doctors familiar with EDH say its NOT a reason to consider a pregnancy high risk and most EDH pregnancies will be low risk. This doctor agreed to order the ultrasound to check for potential high risk, then sent me a letter denying me care because I was “high risk due to Ehlers-Danlos” BEFORE she received the ultrasound results which confirmed a low risk pregnancy. I had the phone conversation with her because I wanted her notes to reflect that she had made this decision before she had seen the ultrasound, it went downhill from there. All the rest of the regular OBs in town refused to see me to begin with because they were unfamiliar with my disorder, leaving me with only the High Risk OBs at the teaching hospital willing to see me, and, since this doctor said I was ‘high risk’, bogus or not, the 1 and only legal midwife in the extended area, who was perfectly comfortable with my situation, is legally prohibited from seeing me. BTW the high risk OBs agree, ehlers-danlos hypermobility isn’t a reason to consider a pregnancy high risk.
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Wait, so now it’s arrogant to want a second opinion, and to benefit from the advice of multiple medical professionals? Despite the fact that many medical professionals advise patients to seek the advice of specialists, or get a second opinion for their own peace of mind?
Alllrighty then.
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